On Mon, Aug 31, 2026 at 08:00:38PM +0200, Manfred Hollstein wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> the more I think about Packman potentially going away, the more I ask
> myself, what is it really that Packman has over those packages coming
> from OBS. I know this BUILD_ORIG and BUILD_ORIG_ADDON thing defined in
> Essentials' project config which can be/is used in packages with patent
> encumbered content like ffmpeg and others. Does anyone *know* what we
> would be missing if we would be using just those packages from OBS
> instead of the version from Packman? I know of one package, at least,
> which wouldn't be possible to be provided within OBS, which is
> libdvdcss. Even on Packman there are no sources for the package, just
> the .spec file, but that's not a problem for people who can read a .spec
> file. The same is probably true for the whole Bluray stuff.
> 
> FWIW, I think I'll try to build kodi/kodi.binary-addons on OBS and see
> how that works in my environment. The same is true for handbrake and
> MakeMKV. Will keep you posted.
> FWIW2, broadcom-wl is available on OBS and not necessarily bound to
> Packman at all.

There are at least three kind of packages in packman.

Packages that are build with BUILD_ORIG and BUILD_ORIG_ADDON.
(ffmpeg, xine, vlc, libheif, etc)
They usually have patented codec disabled in obs. Right now the most
critical is h265/hevc. You cannot play such video without packman's
packages. Also you would be limited with .heif/.heic pictures.

The second kind of packages are the one that obs will not accept because
the sources necessary to build them contains precompiled binaries
or the compiler needed to build such packages is non free (oracle java vs
openjdk).

Finally the third kind of package is the one that is just a link
against an updated version present in obs.
An example is yt-dlp. Such package is update very often upstream. Usually a
release 4-6 months old stops working. Unfortunately the package in Leap
is not updated as required, leading to a unusable package.
Replacing such package with the one from packman does the trick.

It is my opinion that packman provides a useful and necessary service
for the openSUSE community.

Cheers,
Giacomo

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