That's not a bad idea, we could try it during the development cycle
and see how people adapt to it and revert if it has other downsides.

Adam K

On 22 June 2011 19:06, Sebastian Willing <sebastian.will...@web.de> wrote:
> We should think about hiding/closing the findfast panel if it's loosing
> focus.
>
> I tend to "findfast" something, continue working and on the next find,
> the find dialog appears because the panel was still visible.
>
> On 22.06.2011 09:12, Adam Kennedy wrote:
>> Ctrl-Shift-F gets you directly to Find in Files.
>>
>> The idea behind the escalation was to move from a quick and easy
>> search without much interface fiddling to more sophisticated find
>> dialogs with more flexibility, carrying previously entered search
>> inputs as you go.
>>
>> That said, often you know you want to Find in Files straight away. So
>> Ctrl-Shift-F is there for that purposes. The Ctrl-F escalation from
>> Find Dialog to Find in Files just lets you do "Hrm, I wonder if this
>> is in any other files as well".
>>
>> What I was trying to optimise was the number of
>>
>> 1. Keyboard operations in general
>> 2. Keyboard operations requiring unusual finger contortions
>> 3. Keyboard operations different to the previous one
>> 4. Taking hands off the keyboard to touch the mouse
>>
>> So for the common case of looking for the next simple string, the
>> sequence is just...
>>
>> Ctrl-F ->  type string ->  Escape
>>
>> ... all of which can be done without actually having to even look at
>> the fast find panel at all.
>>
>> When you can't find it in the fast find, Ctrl-F gives you a kind of
>> "Search Harder!" for relatively fine-grained tailoring of the search.
>> Having the initial fast find panel gives us some liberties to add more
>> features and make the find dialog more complex, because you only get
>> there if you have more than simple needs.
>>
>> Ctrl-F again to get to Find in Files I would class as a convenience to
>> avoid you having to enter the various settings and search string
>> again.
>>
>> Personally, most of the time I use Find in Files I get there directly
>> with Ctrl-Shift-F.
>>
>> The idea behind F3 when no Find dialogs or panels are open is to
>> essentially to do a stick "replay" of whatever the last active find
>> was before you closed the dialog, plus initiating a new search without
>> any dialogs by selecting text.
>>
>> When done this way, I find I generally do...
>>
>> Double-Click on term, F3 (repeat)
>>
>> Because (for me) right hand is doing the clicking and left hand is
>> hitting F3, this is really efficient.
>>
>> Adam K
>>
>> On 19 June 2011 23:43, Gabor Szabo<szab...@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>> On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 4:31 PM, Sebastian Willing
>>> <sebastian.will...@web.de>  wrote:
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> On 19.06.2011 14:06, Zeno Gantner wrote:
>>>>> One fix would be to abolish the find dialog window completely, and
>>>>> move all the functionality into the bottom search box, as it is in
>>>>> Google Chrome, Monodevelop and Firefox (I think).
>>>>>
>>>>> This would also make the interface more simple+natural.
>>>>> Less choice is sometimes good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>     Zeno
>>>>
>>>> This wold be the last solution we should choose, because the
>>>> findfast/panel search (first on Ctrl+F) lacks major features and still
>>>> has some minor bugs.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Oh and
>>> ctrl-f
>>> ctrl-f
>>> ctrl-f
>>>
>>> (3 times)
>>> bring up the find-in-file dialig which would be ok but I wonder if it
>>> has a separate memory too?
>>>
>>> Gabor
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