> On Mon, 22 Oct 2001, Mike Davis wrote:
> > That would be ok by me but they don't even pay two months after. 
> > Now, they are asking us to discount our payments (ie take less than
> > due).  They are also saying that they are going to increase their
> > percentage.
> 
>   umm.. where did they ask us to discount our payments? did i miss
>   something (i did briefly overview the note kenny emailed out). i
>   personally believe we should not have to wait for a cheque so long
>   for payments. this raises other issues:
> 
>     a) does palmgear HAVE the money to pay us?
>     b) when will the payment schedule be put back on track.
>        - waiting 3 months for a check is NOT acceptable
> 
>   general rule of "resellers" are that you pay your clients first (ie:
>   the people who provide their products for sale), then pay taxes,
>   salaries etc.. 
> 
> // az
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.ardiri.com/

This is precisely the problem I see.  They have been promising to 
catch up for 6 months and don't appear to be any closer.  Further, 
they are using this months sales to pay for July payments.  So, how 
do they expect to pay for this months sales.  They are robbing Peter 
to pay Paul.

They have NEVER given us a date at which they expect to get caught up.

This is what I received, in part, today.

"We are currently working with many of you to accelerate this plan 
via discounts on all or a portion of payments due. In return we can 
offset much if not all with marketing support such as banner ads, e-
mail campaigns, etc. If this is of interest to you please send us 
your ideas!"

This sounds like accelerating to catch up by asking some to discount 
what is owed.

We continually get reasons why they are having problems but never a 
date at which they get caught up.  They have just finsihed with June 
payments and are only now working on July.  So, they are using our 
October income to pay July.  How can this ever get them caught up?  
As it stands now, there is NO money to pay for October, if they use 
it to pay July.  Same for Aug and Sept, that is presumably already 
spent on May and June.

Many of us depend on this income to survive.  We support them but 
they let us go under.  Some developers may think this is ok, since 
they can withstand this lack of payments but it surely is not good 
business practice.  

The way I see it.  There are two amounts of money we are talking 
about.

1) Those that are back payments
2) ongoing current income stream.

#2 should be made on time.  That assures that they have a hope of 
catching up.  #1 should be made via loans or other arrangements.  #1 
should NEVER be paid by using #2 income.



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