Dave, You are right, Honeywell sold it. GE had another computer that I remember back when I was a Grad student - can't remember it's designation. MIT students wrote the OS for Multics (for free - ah those days when we didn't worry about $$$). -------------------------------------------------------------------- Gary Gorsline Easy Business Software ========================= End of Message ==========================
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Mottorn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 6:18 PM Subject: RE: PL/I for Palm ? > That was GE and later Honeywell Information Systems that developed Multics > the project started in the mid-60's. You're right the implementation > language of the operating system was PL1. I don't remember what all MIT had > to do with it. I know they had an installation. > > regards, > > Dave Mottorn > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Gary > Gorsline > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 4:54 PM > To: Palm Developer Forum > Subject: Re: PL/I for Palm ? > > > Lennie, > > I disagree on IBM ownership of PL1. IBM may have some specific trademarks > and copyrights, but the language has been implemented on non-IBM platforms > over the years (MIT commercially distributed a Multics Machine with the OS > written in PL/1 back in the 70s, and Q1 Corp had a pre IBM PC (1974) setup > much like the Pascal interpreters of that time). I don't think you can > copyright the language, syntax, etc. But, obviously, you can copyright your > compiler, run time libraries, etc. If you create the functionality > independently without plagiarizing there work, I would think this would be > AOK. (I'm not an attorney, so do your own research !!!) Think of it like > the IBM BIOS of the PC, Phoenix and Award both cloned them without IBM > shutting them down with their thousands of lawyers at their disposal. Award > is still making many of the BIOSs sold to this day. > > IBM, like Palm and Microsoft, have copyrights and trademarks documents for > developers, advertisers, etc. I wouldn't call them, as they (like > Microsoft) feel they own everything including the "air we breath", but I > would find a copy of their latest copyright/trademark docs. > > Personally, I think at this late date in the palm game, that developing > another development tool is not a profitable venture - at least not for the > current hardware that will be abandoned soon (as announced by Palm). If you > were targeting the compiled code to the current palm, the next palm, the > pocket PC units, the Windows CE units and the other PDAs, then I think the > endeavor could be profitable, as few have done this well in a high level > language (PS - C is not a high level language - if anyone wasn't sure). I > personally would like to see a language that shields the developer from the > APIs for most common functions, but does provide direct API usage for the > "things you just can't do". I'm not saying that there are not some good > contestants providing this capability, but for whatever reason, most > developers on this forum don't seem to be embracing them. > > If you do go forward and everybody starts using your PL/1 compiler for Palm > OS, then I'm sure I will consider moving to it (if I'm not to ingrained in > the development system of choice at the time). > > Good Luck > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > Gary Gorsline > Easy Business Software > ========================== End of Message ========================== > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Joe Programmer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Palm Developer Forum" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Thursday, January 03, 2002 2:09 PM > Subject: Re: PL/I for Palm ? > > > > --- D De Villiers wrote: > > > > > > I played alittle with the PL/I programming language and was just > > > wondering - Any version/dialect of PL/I avialable for the PalmOS ? > > > If 'not' then I may write my own implementation of PL/I for Palm. > > > > Lennie, > > > > According to IBM, "PL/I runs on AIX, MVS/ESA, OS/2, OS/390, OS/400, > > VM/ESA, VSE/ESA and Windows NT." > > > > I believe that IBM owns *all* of the rights to PL/I, so I doubt that > > they will let you write your own implementation for the Palm OS. You > > could contact them and try. > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Send your FREE holiday greetings online! > > http://greetings.yahoo.com > > > > -- > > For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, > please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ > > > > > -- > For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, > please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ > > > > -- > For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/ > -- For information on using the Palm Developer Forums, or to unsubscribe, please see http://www.palmos.com/dev/tech/support/forums/
