On 17 Sep 2004 at 21:22, Jesse Schoch wrote:

> As I said, it's very difficult to reproduce, I think the problems stems from
> the server crashing, the client(par exe) trying to reconnect via LWP
> UserAgent, and then the exe being killed, or having a reboot taking place.
> I fixed it by renaming the inc dir in the cache dir, but I had a user have
> the problem, and the par would run out of the startup folder, but hang.
> Deleting the cache files/rebooting did not fix the problem!  I've not been
> able to manualy reproduce the problem so it's very difficult to tell what
> happened.  Is there no verbose flag for the bootstrapping of a par exe?

There is:

   set PAR_GLOBAL_DEBUG=1
   your_app.exe

for the par.pl portion, but nothing for the binary frontend.

If deleting the cache and re-booting doesn't clear the problem, I really doubt that 
it's a PAR problem! Some "thing/status" in XP is left over after the crash somewhere.


> 
> -jess 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alan Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 9:11 PM
> To: Jesse Schoch; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: Par locking, death, and purgatory
> 
> On 17 Sep 2004 at 12:31, Jesse Schoch wrote:
> 
> >  I've had some strangness in my app for quite a while, the problem was 
> > seemingly random, and the only way to fix was to reinstall, or install 
> > a different version of my app.  I finaly figured out what is causing 
> > the problem, and I fear it may be par related.
> > 
> > 1. System reboots, or app hangs/gets killed.
> > 2. App tries to start, looks for cache.
> > 3. inc directory (win XP) is loocked, par freaks out loops forever.
> > 
> > What I need to do to fix it is to either change the binary (and cache 
> > folder), or move the inc dir.  Windows woln't let me delete it because 
> > it is locked.  Then the app starts up fine.
> > 
> > Any ideas why this is?  It is very difficult for me to simulate.  Any 
> > ideas on debugging in a par built exe's early bootstrap stages?
> > 
> > -jess
> > 
> What are you doing when it crashes in the first place? Are you saying that
> the system reboots because of the PAR app or something else is unstable?
> 
> PAR doesn't "lock" anything. If XP doesn't let you delete the directory,
> it's probably because some DLL is still loaded in memory and has a file in
> the cache open, so XP says the dir is in use. A DLL can have a file open
> even if the program appears to have gone away / been killed. I have a viewer
> that does that to me all the time. I presume that a re-boot after the hang
> allows to you delete the cache.
> 
> My guess is that the open file is opened exclusive and that blocks the app
> somehow on the second try. You could try deleting the files in the cache one
> by one till you get an access denied. Which specific file may give you a
> hint to what's got it still open, and may tell us why it would hang a PAR
> app. I am also guessing that the hang is not in the PAR binary frontend, but
> par.pl or your app code. Try putting a print statement in a BEGIN block at
> the front of your app to see if your code actually starts or not. We need to
> determine if it's PAR or one of your DLLs that is hanging. You may need to
> run without "-g" to see the print.
> 
> Does this happen often enough that you can try these things soon? What are
> the "heavy" 
> Perl modules that you are using in this app?
> 
> Alan Stewart
> 
> 


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