FWIW, as a clarification, the Tendrl frontend team wanted to avoid floating grids, and use flexbox based layouts. It has nothing to do with the spec-non-solidified grid layout - that's out of the picture.
Our app is mostly targeted for modern browsers, although a clear boundary hasn't been drawn yet (as Ju mentioned). We do want to use patternfly for all the features it brings, but not having flexbox layouts are only concern against it. On 22 September 2016 at 21:00, Ju Lim <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Andres for getting back to the Tendrl UI Dev team (CCed). The > Tendrl team is still exploring different options, so your feedback is > timely. > > Serena -- We don't know yet which browsers we'll support yet as the Tendrl > Support Matrix is still being decided. We'll let you know once it gets > known. > > Thanks again, > Ju > > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Andres Galante <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Hi Ju, >> >> I am sure the Tendrl is confused. >> >> Flexbox is a CSS property that provides the ability to arrange elements >> in the page. [1] >> >> Grid layout, is a new spec, still a draft on the W3C and with almost no >> adoption on browsers. [2] >> >> Semantic UI framework uses flexbox to build their grid system. Since >> boostrap 3 was born before flexbox, then its grid its based on floats. >> >> Bootstrap 4 has an option to use flexbox and we will use it when we >> migrate to 4 on the next steps of patternfly. As for when, I don't know, >> but I'll have more info after this week. >> >> Its important to notice that BS4 is an alpha so anything can change. >> >> Can they use flexfox now? the answer of source its "it depends". Flexbox >> support is pretty good at the moment but if they want to support older >> browser the wont be able to use it [3] >> >> My recommendation is for them to use bootstrap grid system, its works >> good with floats and when patternfly moves to Bootstrap 4 the migration of >> the grid would be almost transparent. >> >> That is a good question though, we are living a huge change on layouts >> with flexbox and CSS grid layout, exiting times for CSS and the web! >> >> [1] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Flexibl >> e_Box_Layout/Using_CSS_flexible_boxes >> [2] https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/CSS_Grid_Layout >> [3] http://caniuse.com/#feat=flexbox >> >> >> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 3:46 PM, Serena Doyle <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Ju, >>> >>> Do you know what browsers RH Storage will be supporting ? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> - Serena >>> >>> On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:18 PM, Ju Lim <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> PF Team: >>>> >>>> The Tendrl (downstream product name is Red Hat Storage Console) project >>>> UI Development team has a request to the PatternFly team to ask if we've >>>> considered the including/implementing flexbox >>>> <https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/> (similar to >>>> Semantic >>>> UI <http://semantic-ui.com/introduction/getting-started.html>) instead >>>> of using a grid layout. >>>> >>>> The reasons are as follow: >>>> >>>> - Flexbox is content driven model. It does not need to know the >>>> content upfront. >>>> - Contents can be redistributed >>>> <https://drafts.csswg.org/css-flexbox/#order-accessibility>. >>>> - Allow boxes to wrap >>>> <https://drafts.csswg.org/css-flexbox/#flex-wrap-property> which is >>>> really handy for responsive design. >>>> >>>> Alternatively, if there are other options that the PatternFly community >>>> is considering, can you please provide some guidance and roadmap for the >>>> feature (if possible). >>>> >>>> Thoughts? Please advise. >>>> >>>> Thank you, >>>> Ju >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Patternfly mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> - Serena Chechile Doyle >>> *UXD | Unified Management Experience* >>> *Red Hat* >>> *Cell* 508-769-7715 | *IRC* - serena | *Skype* - serenamarie125 | >>> *Twitter* - @serenamarie125 >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Patternfly mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/patternfly >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Ju Lim > Red Hat > Office: 978-399-0422 > Mobile: 781-507-1323 > Email: [email protected] > IRC: julim > >
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