On 17 September 2010 22:50, Nils <[email protected]> wrote: > > If you are monitoring a trunk link with many VLANs you are basically > seeing all the traffic plus the VLAN tags > I'm dealing quite a lot with VLANs in an enterprise environment and the > part I'm not getting here is the "hopping VLANs" part. > mh, I think we need to talk about this in person at Brucon. One problem > might be me not being a native speaker. > .....and sorry for mistaking you for Paul :-)
Sure, lets talk about it over a drink. Anyone else coming to Brucon and want to chime in feel free. Robin > Nils > > Am 17.09.2010 16:51, schrieb Robin Wood: >> On 17 September 2010 08:09, Nils <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I'm still not quite sure what Paul is aiming for but my take on this >>> is, just provide a trunk link to the virtual machines and let the >>> system's driver take care of the 802.1q tagged packets. Then you can >>> handle a bunch of VLANs on a single system and see how you can >>> manipulate them. >>> You would need a 802.1q capable switch for the trunk link though. >> Its not Paul, its me and what I want to do is to experiment with >> setting up and sniffing VLANs. Things like, can I hop VLANs easily, if >> I put a sniffer at point X what can I see, what about point Y? >> >> If I can do this in a VM lab then it is much easier to do than to do >> it in the physical world. So I want to get the VirtualBox internal >> switch/router to handle 802.1q packets. >> >> Does that make sense? >> >> Robin >> >>> Nils >>> >>> On 9/16/2010 7:08 PM, Carlos Perez wrote: >>>> for voiphopper and other 802.1q I go physical, for jumping segments >>>> attacking routing protocols and other stuff with ESX I can do 802.1q in >>>> the virtual switches and use the physical one in conjunction >>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:45 AM, Robin Wood wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 16 September 2010 16:32, Carlos Perez <[email protected]> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> righ now I have an old Cisco 3550 for playing with that, best bet would >>>>>> be to get an old cisco, procurve, 3com ..etc from ebay >>>>>> each vendor has it own twist on "Standard Protocols" >>>>> How is best to tie that into a VM lab? Or do you just mean plug some >>>>> physical hardware in to it and go from there? I've got enough machines >>>>> kicking around that I could do a physical lab but space, noise and >>>>> portability have prevented me from doing it so far. >>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 11:27 AM, Robin Wood wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On 16 September 2010 16:08, Matthew Manor <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Have you tried Vyatta? It can do most of what Cisco IOS can do but >>>>>>>> virtually, including VLANs, and you can certainly run an entire lab of >>>>>>>> VMs off of it. >>>>>>> I've just had a quick look through it but can't tell if it would help >>>>>>> or not. I want to put different machines in my VirtualBox lab onto >>>>>>> different VLANs so I can experiment with them. Do you know if their >>>>>>> software product would do that? >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -Matt Manor >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 9/16/10, Carlos Perez <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> Do you mean having a switch with 802.1q? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 16, 2010, at 5:03 AM, Robin Wood <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Is there any way to setup a VLAN environment in a virtual >>>>>>>>>> environment? >>>>>>>>>> They are something I've never had much chance to play with and I'd >>>>>>>>>> love to get it labbed up so I can. I know there are virtual systems >>>>>>>>>> for running IOS images but don't think I could then hang a bunch of >>>>>>>>>> VMs off those machines. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Preferably VirtualBox methods but any VM will do. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Robin >>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>>>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Sent from my mobile device >>>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>>> [email protected] >>>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Pauldotcom mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >>> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> Pauldotcom mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom >> Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > > _______________________________________________ > Pauldotcom mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > _______________________________________________ Pauldotcom mailing list [email protected] http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com
