Maybe this will help with your question.  When I taught at ITT Tech in the 
infosec program, we used to have students hired who were graduates of the 
information security program there into entry level information security jobs 
such as IDS analysts, entry level positions on threat & vulnerability 
management teams (duties such as managing and coordinating Nessus scans etc. 
with the application owners), identity management and account provisioning 
functions, etc. To answer the second part of your question, it's hard to say.  
ITT is very much a "you get out of it what you put into it" university, so many 
of the students who were my favorites, like the ones who read things outside of 
class, stayed after to ask questions, and were very actively involved and 
desired to learn, did quite well.  Some of the others who cruised through and 
did just what was needed to earn the credit hours who took these jobs 
floundered.  I think that very much translates into their real life jobs, as the
 y're only going to get the very basic and on the job training types of jobs 
above.  The ones who have succeded are the ones who actively learned and 
expanded their skillsets past earning their degrees, and engaged their 
employers to do more advanced work.  


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Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] breaking in to security, trying to get answers

On 25 February 2012 11:30, Kevin Shaw <[email protected]> wrote:
> I went the start from scratch route, after doing help desk then moving to
> something like post sales and QA, my resume was picked off monster because I
> was located near the place that needed entry level type intrusion analysts.
> Back then getting moved or promoted into other areas was easy if you
> demonstrated aptitude and a willingness to learn more. I think the same
> holds true today, but finding those doors in can be harder with established
> SOCs and similar who often are more critical of experience and may be
> looking for more senior people. You almost need an internship type program.

Seems to be the way most people over 25 or so got into it, under that
age people are going to uni to study it and coming in directly.

Are there any employers out there who have taken on people directly
from university? How do they go, without the background do they manage
to pick things up and if so how long?

Robin

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