Been there, have seen that. I bet we all can name a few cruisers, and I bet more than a few of us on this list are the above and beyonders or we would not be writing emails on Sunday. On Feb 26, 2012 4:02 PM, "Butturini, Russell" < [email protected]> wrote:
> Maybe this will help with your question. When I taught at ITT Tech in the > infosec program, we used to have students hired who were graduates of the > information security program there into entry level information security > jobs such as IDS analysts, entry level positions on threat & vulnerability > management teams (duties such as managing and coordinating Nessus scans > etc. with the application owners), identity management and account > provisioning functions, etc. To answer the second part of your question, > it's hard to say. ITT is very much a "you get out of it what you put into > it" university, so many of the students who were my favorites, like the > ones who read things outside of class, stayed after to ask questions, and > were very actively involved and desired to learn, did quite well. Some of > the others who cruised through and did just what was needed to earn the > credit hours who took these jobs floundered. I think that very much > translates into their real life jobs, as the > y're only going to get the very basic and on the job training types of > jobs above. The ones who have succeded are the ones who actively learned > and expanded their skillsets past earning their degrees, and engaged their > employers to do more advanced work. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Robin Wood > Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 1:47 PM > To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] breaking in to security, trying to get answers > > On 25 February 2012 11:30, Kevin Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > > I went the start from scratch route, after doing help desk then moving to > > something like post sales and QA, my resume was picked off monster > because I > > was located near the place that needed entry level type intrusion > analysts. > > Back then getting moved or promoted into other areas was easy if you > > demonstrated aptitude and a willingness to learn more. I think the same > > holds true today, but finding those doors in can be harder with > established > > SOCs and similar who often are more critical of experience and may be > > looking for more senior people. You almost need an internship type > program. > > Seems to be the way most people over 25 or so got into it, under that > age people are going to uni to study it and coming in directly. > > Are there any employers out there who have taken on people directly > from university? How do they go, without the background do they manage > to pick things up and if so how long? > > Robin > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Pauldotcom mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > _______________________________________________ > Pauldotcom mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com > > > > ****************************************************************************** > This email contains confidential and proprietary information and is not to > be used or disclosed to anyone other than the named recipient of this email, > and is to be used only for the intended purpose of this communication. > > ****************************************************************************** > _______________________________________________ > Pauldotcom mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.pauldotcom.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pauldotcom > Main Web Site: http://pauldotcom.com >
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