Lol. John Strand 605-550-0742 Sent from my phone. On Aug 25, 2012 10:05 PM, "Arch Angel" <[email protected]> wrote:
> No worries John we would never question your genius, now if you wouldn't > open that PDF and wait for instructions :-) > > Not yet, wait for.... > > Almost ready.... > > There we go, thank you for your time :-) > > Robert > (arch3angel) > On Aug 25, 2012 10:15 AM, "John Strand" <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Yea.. >> >> Thinking about it. Smart has nothing to do with it. >> >> I just announced to a security list that I dont run AV on my mac. >> >> Not to bright... Is it? >> >> John >> >> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:17 AM, ash <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hahaha I have to agree .. I also run Sophos on my macs .. im also not >>> as smart as John Strand .. and I am Australian .. I don’t have much going >>> for me here do I??**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> DAMMIT**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> Ash D**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy >>> Pommerening >>> *Sent:* Saturday, 25 August 2012 2:16 AM >>> >>> *To:* PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List >>> *Subject:* Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX**** >>> >>> ** ** >>> >>> I run Sophos on my MAC and don't notice any performance hit. But I am >>> NOT as smart as John Strand. >>> >>> **** >>> >>> **** >>> >>> Jeremy Pommerening >>> CISSP,GCFA,GPEN,GAWN,GCFW, >>> MCSE Win2K, MCSE NT4**** >>> >>> *From:* xgermx <[email protected]> >>> *To:* PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List < >>> [email protected]> >>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2012 10:22 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX**** >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> I like that analogy Chistopher. I've been running Sophos for a couple >>> days now and it's stayed out of my way for the most part. Even if I decide >>> to turn it off, I'll keep it installed for one-off scans. >>> >>> Thanks all. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> **** >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Christopher Croad <[email protected]> >>> wrote:**** >>> >>> I have mixed feelings. I figure AV is at best 30% effective, and I know >>> I can keep my Mac pretty secure without it. Still, I run Sophos on my Mac >>> and it doesn't get in the way. If it did, I would have no issue in >>> shutting it down. AV is like seatbelts on an airplane. They provide a >>> little security during bumpy flights, but a lap belt isn't going to do >>> much when the plane is rocking and rolling ( or crashing). >>> >>> Chris Croad**** >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh More >>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:23 PM >>> To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List**** >>> >>> Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX >>> >>> I agree with Ryan's view. >>> >>> Also, as a counterpoint to Michael's, it is surprisingly difficult to >>> not do anything stupid under OSX. The only way I've found to be >>> reasonably secure is to not run as admin (not hard, actually), use >>> Little Snitch and Glimmer Proxy (annoying) AND replace Safari >>> completely with a hardened Firefox (noscript, HTTPS Everywhere, >>> Request Policy, WOT, Adblock+, Certificate Patrol, etc)... which >>> pretty much completely kills a large part of the OSX experience. >>> >>> When you add to this, the tendency of Apple to release patches as >>> frequently as cicadas, I don't think that adding an additional layer >>> of defense, imperfect as it is, is a bad idea. >>> >>> I use Sophos on mine. >>> >>> -Josh More >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Michael D. Wood >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>> > I also agree. Don't believe the hype, when/if it really comes down to >>> it - >>> > maybe, then look into something. In the meantime, be security aware >>> and >>> > don't do anything stupid. >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Michael D. Wood >>> > ITSecurityPros.org <http://itsecuritypros.org/> >>> > http://www.itsecuritypros.org/ >>> > >>> > -----Original Message----- >>> > From: [email protected] >>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex >>> Kornilov >>> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:55 AM >>> > To: [email protected] >>> > Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX >>> > >>> > On 8/22/12 10:20 PM, John Strand wrote: >>> >> No. >>> >> >>> >> The reason? I have yet to be on a test were it gets in the way. >>> >> >>> >> I do know it causes your system to run slower and crash more. >>> >> >>> >> I would rather have a faster, less secure system than the illusion of >>> >> security. >>> > +1 >>> > I agree. 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