the irony of this question being asked on the "hack naked" list must be noted.
On Sun, Aug 26, 2012 at 4:33 AM, John Strand <[email protected]>wrote: > Lol. > > John Strand > 605-550-0742 > Sent from my phone. > On Aug 25, 2012 10:05 PM, "Arch Angel" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No worries John we would never question your genius, now if you wouldn't >> open that PDF and wait for instructions :-) >> >> Not yet, wait for.... >> >> Almost ready.... >> >> There we go, thank you for your time :-) >> >> Robert >> (arch3angel) >> On Aug 25, 2012 10:15 AM, "John Strand" <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> Yea.. >>> >>> Thinking about it. Smart has nothing to do with it. >>> >>> I just announced to a security list that I dont run AV on my mac. >>> >>> Not to bright... Is it? >>> >>> John >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 7:17 AM, ash <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Hahaha I have to agree .. I also run Sophos on my macs .. im also not >>>> as smart as John Strand .. and I am Australian .. I don’t have much going >>>> for me here do I??**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> DAMMIT**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> Ash D**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> *From:* [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Jeremy >>>> Pommerening >>>> *Sent:* Saturday, 25 August 2012 2:16 AM >>>> >>>> *To:* PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX**** >>>> >>>> ** ** >>>> >>>> I run Sophos on my MAC and don't notice any performance hit. But I am >>>> NOT as smart as John Strand. >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> Jeremy Pommerening >>>> CISSP,GCFA,GPEN,GAWN,GCFW, >>>> MCSE Win2K, MCSE NT4**** >>>> >>>> *From:* xgermx <[email protected]> >>>> *To:* PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List < >>>> [email protected]> >>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2012 10:22 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX**** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> I like that analogy Chistopher. I've been running Sophos for a couple >>>> days now and it's stayed out of my way for the most part. Even if I decide >>>> to turn it off, I'll keep it installed for one-off scans. >>>> >>>> Thanks all. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> **** >>>> >>>> On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:59 AM, Christopher Croad <[email protected]> >>>> wrote:**** >>>> >>>> I have mixed feelings. I figure AV is at best 30% effective, and I >>>> know I can keep my Mac pretty secure without it. Still, I run Sophos on my >>>> Mac and it doesn't get in the way. If it did, I would have no issue in >>>> shutting it down. AV is like seatbelts on an airplane. They provide a >>>> little security during bumpy flights, but a lap belt isn't going to do >>>> much when the plane is rocking and rolling ( or crashing). >>>> >>>> Chris Croad**** >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: [email protected] [mailto: >>>> [email protected]] On Behalf Of Josh More >>>> Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 11:23 PM >>>> To: PaulDotCom Security Weekly Mailing List**** >>>> >>>> Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX >>>> >>>> I agree with Ryan's view. >>>> >>>> Also, as a counterpoint to Michael's, it is surprisingly difficult to >>>> not do anything stupid under OSX. The only way I've found to be >>>> reasonably secure is to not run as admin (not hard, actually), use >>>> Little Snitch and Glimmer Proxy (annoying) AND replace Safari >>>> completely with a hardened Firefox (noscript, HTTPS Everywhere, >>>> Request Policy, WOT, Adblock+, Certificate Patrol, etc)... which >>>> pretty much completely kills a large part of the OSX experience. >>>> >>>> When you add to this, the tendency of Apple to release patches as >>>> frequently as cicadas, I don't think that adding an additional layer >>>> of defense, imperfect as it is, is a bad idea. >>>> >>>> I use Sophos on mine. >>>> >>>> -Josh More >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 4:43 PM, Michael D. Wood >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> > I also agree. Don't believe the hype, when/if it really comes down >>>> to it - >>>> > maybe, then look into something. In the meantime, be security aware >>>> and >>>> > don't do anything stupid. >>>> > >>>> > -- >>>> > Michael D. Wood >>>> > ITSecurityPros.org <http://itsecuritypros.org/> >>>> > http://www.itsecuritypros.org/ >>>> > >>>> > -----Original Message----- >>>> > From: [email protected] >>>> > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Alex >>>> Kornilov >>>> > Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 10:55 AM >>>> > To: [email protected] >>>> > Subject: Re: [Pauldotcom] AV for OSX >>>> > >>>> > On 8/22/12 10:20 PM, John Strand wrote: >>>> >> No. >>>> >> >>>> >> The reason? I have yet to be on a test were it gets in the way. >>>> >> >>>> >> I do know it causes your system to run slower and crash more. >>>> >> >>>> >> I would rather have a faster, less secure system than the illusion of >>>> >> security. >>>> > +1 >>>> > I agree. 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