Energy per transmitted bit, the challenge for many battery powered 
transceivers. So yes 10% is meaningful

From: <Rosen>, Brian <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:53 AM
To: Ray Bellis <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>, 
Don Joslyn <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [paws] Proposal to optionally support shortened message format

<personal opinion>
I don’t have an objection to doing that, but it won’t do anything substantial 
to the problem.

We have had discussions like this on many protocols over the years.  Our 
experience is this kind of thing has little effect on implementations other 
than complicating debugging.

Using a formal compression scheme on the entire message often helps 
substantially reduce message size, also substantially complicates debugging, 
and, in general, we don’t think it actually helps implementations.

You really think that reducing message sizes from, say 14KB to, say 10KB, which 
any decent compression system should be able to do, would actually make any 
difference to a device implemented this year?  If those Ks were Ms, it might be 
worth thinking about, but Ks?  Please.

Shorter names probably only changes messages sizes by 10% or so, clearly 
insufficient to do anything other than confuse humans.

Brian


From: Ray Bellis <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Date: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 at 8:34 AM
To: Don Joslyn <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Cc: "[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>>
Subject: Re: [paws] Proposal to optionally support shortened message format


On 10 Dec 2013, at 13:03, Don Joslyn 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

Dan, Vince,

When you say that you don’t want to have aliases and just want to decide on 
short names, does that mean that the current long names would be changed to 
short names and the  long names would not be supported?

That's my understanding of what has been proposed, and I think it's a good idea.

Ray


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