Son of the soil Don't argue from the side of ignorancy, do your reaerch and you will understand that its not only about vested interests but also the quality of the leader. That's one way you will be able to see if the party and the masses are heading towards a right direction. It is a known fact that the ANC has failed and will continue doing so, is the PAC going to do better than the ruling party with a leader like Letlapa. Unity,democracy and transperency are key in movement building. If you really have interests of the party son of the soil start encouraging comrades to call for unity in the organization which will be difficult to achieve under the leadership of Letlapa. Strategically i would say- let's use the coming elections and organize,mobilize and build the PAC that will be rooted on the ground. This will allow people's control unlike the ongoing one man show.
Izwe Lethu! On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 4:52 PM, Apoti <[email protected]> wrote: > Thats the most ridiculous argument ever son of the soil. > > These elections are not about personalities, they are about who we think > has vested interests of the African masses at heart and I'm sorry that the > PAC still is the only movement that has a best plan for the masses. Whether > Letlapa is fit for office or not is irrelevant. > > I think we need to consider that The ruling party has failed the African > masses dismally and not voting in these elections will be a betrayal to > those who fought for total liberation of African people from Cape to Cairo > and those who still live in absolute poverty and degradation. > > We can always overturn the decision of the PAC's 8th congress but this can > be done constitutionally. > > Izwe lethu > > "Education to us means service to Africa" RM Sobukwe > > On 04 Feb 2009, at 15:10, sello mafrika Tladi <[email protected]> wrote: > > If I vote in this elections I will be sending Letlapa to parliment and > exposing to more resource.Where I will have no powers to control him as he > is already uncontrolable with the limited resource. > > > > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 12:16 PM, nonceba mbilini <[email protected]>wrote: > >> The decision to participate or not to participate should be based on the >> current state of the organization, how as a member of the PAC am I suppose >> to go out and campaign for the PAC in the election? while there are issues >> of leadership that we are failing to address, mainly the constitution, I was >> denied, together with the members of my branch to participate in the Alice >> congress mainly because our so called tickets to the congress "membership >> cards" were not issued although we submitted forms long before Alice and met >> all requirements to attend, but unfortunately for us, we only received our >> membership cards in November four months after the congress, Now my question >> is why is that Africanist that were at that congress see it fit that we >> should endorse the NEW constitution, which by the as a branch we had no >> input on what must be in the constitution, this is the same document that >> speaks of funny terms like PAC youth league, and woman's league, that we >> know nothing about, where in the history of politics you find a leader of >> the mother body changing a name of the youth wing of the organization >> without even consulting with the youth, unless he is a dictator, only PAYCO >> congress can change the name and amend its constitution thereof, this goes >> for PAWO as well, in my view the people who betrayed the movement are those >> who went and adopted a constitution that was impossed on them, military >> style in Alice. >> >> When PAYCO campaigned for Letlapa to be President in Qwa-qwa, it was with >> the view that he will advocate for unity and party building, setting up >> political schools, and the Sobukwe house and he said in his own words that >> after his term he will step down that was his mandate, non of that has >> materialized, unless I'm living in another country, BIG mistake and now yes >> we must live with it, I dont think so. As young people subscribing to PAYCO >> we are still waiting to see who is this youth league and their leaders, and >> who are they leading. Letlapa has caused so much confusion amongst ordinary >> members and will carry on confusing us for the next 10 years, as HIS >> constitution states that he might stay for two 5 year terms as the president >> of the PAC, Now the question I'm putting forward to this platform is why >> should I vote for a leader who does not recognize me as a representative of >> a legal YOUTH structure like PAYCO? >> >> and for the record ordinary citizens dont know who Letlapa Mphahlele is >> and what views he represents, come to KHUTSONG you will understand what I'm >> talking about, going to elections will not solve our problems, lets rather >> go to a special congress and right the wrong, we deserve to be given a >> platform to raise these issues, prefably not in Eastern Cape, maybe at a >> rather neutral province like North West. >> >> >> Nonceba Mbilini >> 0826336465 >> 0187889639 >> >> On 2/2/09, Mavela Mavela <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I support my party to the next election and I will fight my battle within >>> the PAC without discrediting its programme as if I am not allowed to forward >>> inputs. >>> >>> Your Gwede Mantashe's approach to party problem won't cater us Milk and >>> Honey. If you so love your party (if you are), why are you de-campaigning >>> it? >>> >>> I am also not happy but I will put my *X* next to my party and I will >>> participate in its campaigns, for I know there is *PAC* after and before >>> elections. >>> >>> Your politics won't be known by ordinary citizen, they will rather >>> humiliate your party performance in the election. >>> >>> *"The only time as human you are allowed to look at someone down is when >>> you are about to offer your hand to lift him up"* by Agitator >>> >>> Regards >>> *Mavela "Agitator"* >>> >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 2:34 PM, PAYCO Azania >>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Comrades >>>> >>>> Please find PAYCO position on the above. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Linda Ndebele >>>> SG >>>> 0720682881 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> > > > -- > Sello M'Afrika Tladi > Uhururadio.com > Regional Director,Southern Afrika > Mobile: +27 83 859 1654 > Fax: 086 612 7684 > "Afrika unite" > www.uhurunews.com > > > > > > -- Patrick "Patra" Sindane Coalition Against Water Privatisation (CAWP)-South Africa 123 Vogas House,6th floor,pritchard&mooi street. 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