---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: [Fwd: Re: [Fwd: [PAYCO] My heart yearns for PAC that is no more]] From: [email protected] Date: Thu, August 20, 2009 08:09 To: --------------------------------------------------------------------------
Son of the soil, I think it is important for us as comrades to be frank with each other as it is critical for all Pan Africanist to make time and take you step by step on the following: # African Nationalism #Africanism #Development of Pan Africanism -In the Diaspora -Afrika -Southern Africa and Azania #Formation of the ANC #Formation of the ANCYL #Adoption of the 1949 Programme of Action #Defiance Campaign #Africanist Movement #Adoption of the Freedom Charter #Formation of the the PAC #Concept of Africanist Socialist democratic society #Scientific Socialism #African Socialism/Ujaama #PAC VS SA Communist Party/Capitalist Party #Ideas and views of Pan Africanist Founding Fathers -African Nationalism -Africanism -African Socialism -Scientific Socialism -Communism -Neo-colonialism -race question -Global relations Without understanding the above in context and critically there is no possibility of understanding the ideological and policy differences between PAC and ANC,worse there is no possibility of understanding Pan Africanism and its relationship with socialism. The PAC did not exist on the basis of hate for whites or indians,rest assured son of the soil that PAC coined the whole concept of non-racialism. PAC founding fathers loved Africa and its people too much that those who lacked such love interpreted this to hate for other people. Sobukwe understood class struggle and used it to interpret PAC attitude to certain classes in society,hence he rejected the so called "Indian Merchant" class which was privilleged and identified with the system as opposed to the poor working indians who were being exploited and classified as sub-humans like the indigenous African people. Let me assure you son of the soil that the Greatest Pan Aftricanist in Africa and world over Osagyefo Kwame Nkrumah was a socialist and believed in class struggle. Before challenging the whole concept of class struggle it is critical to understand it from a Pan Africanist perspective. I recommend Class Struggle in Africa by Osagyefo Kwame Nkrumah and The Struggle Continues by Nkrumah as well. PAC members should learn to find Pan Africanists positions even outside Sobukwe. Sobukwe himself use to consider positions taken by Pan Africanists leaders elsewhere and adapt them to azanian material conditions. I am going to make time and engage you and refer you to relevant books and pages to understand Pan Africanism in context, then you will find answers to your questions. Pan Africanism is the ideology that should live among the illiterate and semi-literate,it is unfortunate that here in Azania it is the privilege of the educated,we want to change that, hence we want a new leadership that will speak and live with the masses day in day out. Yours for a classless society Kwame Ndebele PAYCO Secretary General ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: Re: [Fwd: [PAYCO] My heart yearns for PAC that is no more] From: [email protected] Date: Thu, August 20, 2009 07:27 To: [email protected] -------------------------------------------------------------------------- Greetings Ma Afrika Thanks M'Afrika Jack for the information that you have provided to the forum. I'm still maintaining my stance in this, in Sobukwe interview i found something of wanting to Africans to lead not to be led by white/Indian communist. Now to me if that was a case then, ANC and SACP is led by blacks. Is it that what he and others wanted? Secondly what is Pan Africanism ideology? Where it come from? How did it come to existence? What is African about it? Every time we say our ideology is Pan Africanism? Or is it that we are lying/ deceiving our people? Is it about power struggle as we have seen in other parts of Africa? Let me pause for now Lubabalo Popo > > Cde Popo greetings, > > I am sorry that right now I don't have time to engage you on the issues you have raised, but allow me to indicate to you that PAC is socialist and it would remain as such for many decades to come. For argument sake,even if PAC was not socialist,it had no choice but to be socialist to be able to survive and to liberate the masses of our people from the neo-colonial vices. Socialism is the future,make no mistake son of the soil. If truth is to be told PAC cannot outdo ANC and its fly-by-night millionares on the question of capitalism. Class struggle is the reality that we cannot runaway from. > > > I know this statement is unfair to you hence,I promise to address this topic in detail next time I engage you. Keep well, I must rush.... > > Kwame Ndebele > PAYCO SG > > > > ---------------------------- Original Message ---------------------------- Subject: [PAYCO] My heart yearns for PAC that is no more From: [email protected] > Date: Thu, August 13, 2009 14:38 > To: [email protected] > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Greetings Sons and Daughter of the soil > > It's very sad to hear people claiming to be PAC member pushing class struggle at the expense of National Liberator Building. Pan Africanist Congress of Azania which was found in 1959 by Sobukwe and others is the nationalist organisation not a socialist one nor communist one. We are not apologetic to anyone about that. Class struggle is the communist term not Africanist for sure. Africanism is the path to Pan Africanism, and Socialism is the path to Communism. > > Allow me to borrow the words of Anton Muziwakhe Lembede " My heart yearn for an Africa that is no more. 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