Majoni! Comrade I remain puzzled by our inability to come up with a lasting solution to our party demise. We continuasly refer to the programme that will address our demise. Can't we draw that programme and paste it here for further discusion and perusal? It is so sad that a party which habours such great thinking tanks who understand the dynamics of a revolution can fail to address and come with implimentable solution to our demise. Majoni we are no longer wasting time infact we are driving all the remaining Pan Africanists remnants within the party to its early grave. I truely sympathise with the comrades who were forced by circumstances to leave this party and found themself in the hands of charterists bouegeousies. We have heard what you have to say. Can you provide us with a wayforward to address our demise. Inkulumo yeno is now deafening our ears. Azanians are waiting impatiantly for the lasting solution to their revolution that went apace. we can work within the community and do well but will always be identified with PAC a "FLAT TYRE". At this moment every PAC member should draft a silmple one or two page discusion document to outline the wayforward.
Izwe Labo!!( Macherter)!! Sorry Majoni!! Izwe Lethu!! ________________________________ From: Mduduzi Sibeko <[email protected]> To: Cunningham Ngcukana <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Mawande Jack <[email protected]>; [email protected]; Khaliphile Sizani <[email protected]>; Loyiso Mfuku <[email protected]>; Yandisa Ngcuka <[email protected]>; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Lulamile Ntonzima <[email protected]>; Simphiwe Nofuma <[email protected]>; [email protected] Sent: Mon, May 3, 2010 2:33:20 PM Subject: [PAYCO] RE: Hi Cunningham I t I recall some years in one of our congress your car tires were pricked, Patric Baleka was very angry with that. Who was involved in that ? were you at odds with those that did this ? Do you remember Baleka. What happened to him , I heard that he Joined COPE. From:Cunningham Ngcukana [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 12:20 PM To: Mduduzi Sibeko; [email protected]; Mawande Jack; [email protected]; Khaliphile Sizani; Loyiso Mfuku; Yandisa Ngcuka; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Lulamile Ntonzima; Simphiwe Nofuma; [email protected] Subject: RE: Hi Mduduzi I was part of the first meetings leading to the Convention and Thohoyandou. The meetings were held at SACWU with Sthembele Khala; Mudini Maivha; myself and many comrades. We debated the issue of leadership and Mogoba. I rasised a critical concern that without policies; strategies and tactics I has a problem of focussing on individuals. I raised the issue of Mogoba as a person who was outside the party mainstream and not aware of dynamics. I raised the issue of Muendane’s history in the party in Robben Island and the external mission. The refrain was that Uncle Zeph had asked everybody to return back to the party. I raised the concern of Muendane’s inability to submit himself to leadership by any person and such a character as a danger. Cde Jaki Seroke would remember these numerous meetings. The other concern was that the process was driven by Gauteng based comrades without input from key bases of the party like the Western Cape and the former Transkei and I feared a backlash from structures and cadres whom I had worked with. As a result I neither attended the Convention nor Thohoyandou Conference as I did not want to participate in a flawed process that was looking for a Messiah. Mogoba I subsequently met with the leaders of the labour movement and underground comrades. He promised consultation and an advisory structure like a politburo and he disappeared after that. Muendane attempted a process of policy development with a chosen coterie of people and wanted to jettison socialism from the PAC political and ideological approach. Mogoba was chased by lumpens in Cape Town who were a Makwethu faction and Muendane effected revenge to those he had a score to settle. Mogoba was a priest not a political animal even Dandala was better. He roped in Mayende who has no clue of economics and who wrote paraffin called the land policy of the PAC a similar thing Sipho Shabalala wrote As an economic policy of PAC without any economic bearing or understanding. The PAC was so far removed from the grass roots structures and was run in a corporatist manner. This allowed a revolt that carried Pheko into the leadership by branches with populism without substance. Kind Regards Cunningham Ngcukana From:Mduduzi Sibeko [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 03 May 2010 11:05 To: Cunningham Ngcukana; [email protected]; Mawande Jack; [email protected]; Khaliphile Sizani; Loyiso Mfuku; Yandisa Ngcuka; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Lulamile Ntonzima; Simphiwe Nofuma; [email protected] Subject: RE: There was euphoria when Mokgoba took the helm of the PAC. It was believed that the PAC poor electoral showings then were attributable to Makwethu. Thus a visionary was sought after, and Mokgoba emerged triumphant. Muendane was amongst the would be visionaries to reinvent strategies for the PAC. Muendane was very arrogant which established the claim made about him in exile. From:Cunningham Ngcukana [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 3:30 PM To: Mduduzi Sibeko; [email protected]; Mawande Jack; [email protected]; Khaliphile Sizani; Loyiso Mfuku; Yandisa Ngcuka; [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; Lulamile Ntonzima; Simphiwe Nofuma; [email protected] Subject: RE: Hi Mduduzi It was the frustration with the PAC leadership especially de Lille and Muendane. Muendane was basically settling scores with comrades from the external mission and Robben Island. That includes Mlambo and Malcom Dyani. He was so vindictive and de Lille was a perfect tool for Muendane and he held Gora responsible for his expulsion by Pokela. Dyani was part of the socialist group he despised in Robben Island very eloquent and articulate on Pan Africanism. Dyani also left the PAC as he saw no hoe with a 26 at the helm. I was a bit angry against both of them but understood the vitriol they daily faced in parliament with threats of expulsion like Letlapa has done with Godi I had to fly from my pocket Joe Mkhwanazi to attend Gora’s funeral and it was a very sad thing. When Nyerere died I had to pay for Mkhwanazi to represent us at his funeral and the lumpens in the PAC did nothing. I asked Thabo Mbeki to take Mlambo with him. The Tanzanians made Mkhwanazi to be part of the reception team of Mbeki. The damage the 26 and de Lille have done to the PAC is untold. Other things rather remain unsaid. 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