From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:56:03 +0000 Subject: Re: Taking PAC forward
Comrade Gerald It matters not whether you are putting peoples names on a national or provincial lists. The fact of the matter is that those structures will evaporate if the is no programme of action, a guide to action for all party structures and individual members alike. The point I'm making is that preoccupation with lists talk is a distraction of what party members should be focusing on. The party is in complete disarray and lists talk is not going to help the situation. We should not be focusing on lists. Our focus should be on WHAT THE PARTY MUST DO TO FULL ITS HISTORIC TASKS, a guide to action for the party in the forward march to liberate African people with African people themselves as the bedrock and engine drivers of this change. So I'm saying before we rush into a lists frenzy let us inform a programme on the basis of which leadership deployment will be premised. All leadership layers are important and serves a particular role. Despite your attempt to sidetrack the thrust of my earlier e-mail, I maintain my position. It remains the approriate response to your unfortunate obsession with lists making, be it national or provincial. Indeed I have been requested to engage. That notwithstanding it is not correct approach to start making list when there is no agreed national programme of action across all structures of the party. We must respect the right of members and branches of the party as the ultimate arbiters on all matters of the party. I plead with you to find your wisdom on these important matters. Izwelethu! Hulisani Mmbara Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Lerobane Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2012 13:09:44 To: Subject: Re: Taking PAC forward Mmbara The question i asked have got nothing to do with the illigitimate congress, The interim executive of Gauteng is working on the conference and i was made to believe that you were requested to deal with a paper on POA, about your leadership role yes its true you led very well in the youth structure that is the reason i personally felt that if we are to go for the provincial congress and have to really contest gauteng strong we need your character as Provincial Secretary to steer the party programme.Note that this is a personal opinion and i believe you have seen the poster about the coming conference and issues that will be tabled there.The other point maybe to quickly update you yhe descion was taken that we need to mobilise as many branches as we can prepare for the national conference not congress even my branch stands on that as a result i dont see how can i talk of butterworth congress whilest we organised conference to counter that. i hope this will respond to your questions. Gerald Lerobane 0780891973 On 6/2/12, Hulisani Mmbara wrote: Thank you for your appreciation of my leadership role. I do not know on whose behalf you are extending this offer for me to declare my self-interested future role in the party. I don't know if you have a mandate from any structure of the party. I'm equally not aware of any party structures that have started putting people's names on lists for leadership nomination/election purposes or are preparing to attend a congress anytime soon. Of course I'm aware of several lists doing the rounds in the run up to the illegitimate PAC congress. It is also not for the first time that I have been approached in the manner that you did. So I need to know if I'm responding to the offer by you or a faction. I suspect you have been sent by a faction to engage me, particularly the faction that has recently been circulating its list of preferred candidates through various mediums. I would like you to please deliver my response to them. It is important that my position as a cadre of the party be clearly understood by those in the open and those hiding in the background. I also wonder how many comrades you forwarded the same message. It will be interesting to know who else you intend to put on a list for leadership positions in the party or other structures of the party. I hope you understand that all you are doing is to draw and circulate lists and that it requires a different kind of capacity to run a leadership campaign worth a name. Coming back to your e-mail, I wish to indicate that I have responded to similar offers by saying it is premature to list names to positions when there is no programme of action. I have said we should start by identifying a task and look at the capacity of comrades to deliver the task and deploy the best man or woman for the job. This programme cannot be a function of one clever man. It must be a collective effort if it is to be supported and for it to succeed. So the party must adopt a programme and send its best cadres to carry it out. That is the wayfoward for the PAC. This is the overall principled approach that PAC members should take. Unfortunately I do not believe that your manner of doing things will take the party forward. But I must indicate that true cadres of the party are ready to defend the party from being reduced into another laughing stock. I'm sure they will not allow anything that will bring the name of the party into disrepute than it already is. In your e-mail you say nothing about a programme of action. All you want is to put my name on a list. I refused to have my name on any list without firstly talking about what is to be done. I have no interest to decorate any position. I also have no desire to boost my ego by associating my name and holding any leadership title in the party, in circumstances where the basis and role of leadership has not been established. I also believe that those who have nothing to contribute in the programme of action, doubt its significance or believe it is not relevant cannot design leadership of the party. They have no business to do any of that. I have rejected the lists talk many times and for a long time now and I still reject such shortcut. The other point I need to make is that it will also be difficult for me, to work with people who have no ideological grounding and commitment to the revolutionary pan africanist and socialist agenda of the party in its entirety. It is not enough to flirt or more still, be in love with an idea. One must live and die for an idea. It must consume one's being to a point of its either the idea or death! The revolutionary agenda and task of the party is not for the faint-hearted and spineless cowards. I will never serve in the same committee with cowards or agree to be deployed to any position by cowards. I have in the past, but never again. I'm prepared to die for what I believe in. I fully appreciate the sacrifice required of me and I'm ready. I doubt if your faction is prepared to die or shed blood to achieve what the party and our people stand for. As for me i'm not prepared to go to war with cowards. It doesn't surprise me though that while all party structures have rejected the illegitimate congress, and your faction has been party to these rejections, you go around in the night to promote the same illegitimate congress. You and your faction have always been double dealing, waiveres, reactionary and a bunch of cowards. When did you decide and with whom, to be part of the illegitimate congress? Who mandated you? You are always silent when issues are put on the table because you are cowards and lack the courage of your convictions, and yet you are quick to speak lists! I also want to make it clear that my views are not in anyway informed by the fact that I do not future in your lousy list of preferred candidates. I'm confirming this now: I do not want my name to be associated with opportunistic tendencies and I will not be party to any illegitimate congress. Mine is a principled position. I beg for no space on any list. I refuse to be co-opted or contained in anyway. You can take your offer to the next person because I will not be party to a circus whose only outcome will serve to humiliate the PAC. I hope this clarifies my position on the subject. Izwelethu! Hulisani Mmbara 0825933012 Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: Gerald Lerobane Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2012 08:30:28 To: Subject: Taking PAC forward Mmbara Son of the soil the reason for this comminque is simple and forward. As one of the former leaders and experinced cadre of the movement where do you feel you can best serve the movement post the legal battle and conference, It is of great interest that all those who served within matome led nec being retained in different structures not only the pac nec. gerald ____________________________________________________________ South Africas premier free email service - www.webmail.co.za For super low premiums, click here. http://www.dialdirect.co.za/?vdn=15828 -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
