Ntate Moloto
I'm not in the habit of blowing my own trumpet.  The work we do in the 
communities to improve the quality of life speaks for itself, and I belief it 
will eventually be judged on its own merits.  Kgagodi has just indicated the 
labor union work and indicated that ongoing struggles in the confines of 
mineworker challenges are done by our own comrades .  I concur that there is 
obviously other matters we cannot divulge in open forums.  Here is my own bit 
that I assume will help you to vent your frustrations in the right direction:
I fund a maths and science Saturday class for teachers and pupils in Bapong 
village where we also engage young people with the circumstances that led to 
organisations like Lonrho changing face to appear behind the scenes and own say 
Lonmin in their ancenstral land.  This is year three of my involvement.In 
Kareepoort in the vicinity of the Platinum mines, we have put together 
agro-business strategies for twenty farmers.  These are claimants of 
agricultural land with serious intentions to produce.  Again, I helped to raise 
the substantial funding for farming implements and to get technical support.  
We have done this without involving government structures.I also participate in 
community gatherings and contribute to the definitions and attempts to resolve 
the conflicts between traditional leadership authority, their structures and 
the interests of the majority.  We are making significant break-throughs.  And 
I do not hide the fact that I am a Pan Africanist.  There are several Party 
members I'm in touch with who are doing the same despite the fact that we are 
largely township born and bred. On Saturday after the Marikana butchery of 
African mineworkers, I had a frank chat with a senior ANC leader and government 
minister, at the funeral of a family member, and stated the same things I send 
on PAYCO forums.  
In stating these examples I am not saying I'm doing better.  Far from it, I am 
an activist and voluntarily work with communities. I refute the allegations you 
make that we are reactionary.  The political term reactionary implies the 
forces who stand opposite the interests of the masses who are downtrodden.  It 
is a dialectical term used for its political connotation to draw the lines for 
and against progress.  The mine owners (transnational corporate companies) 
would be reactionary forces for instance, because they stand as agents of 
imperialism and monopoly capitalism.  Lenin had said there are no armchair 
revolutionaries - he said this is an oxymoron.  The revolution is an act of 
doing fundamental changes in the thoughts and actions of the masses.  So we 
must understand that to debate ideological issues and awaken ourselves from 
slumber is a revolutionary act.  He - Vladimir Lenin - was accused of the same 
things as you do now.  Mothopeng, Sobukwe, Raboroko, et al, were all accused of 
the same things by the Charterists in the Tranvaal ANC and even when the PAC 
was first launched - by Josias Madzunya and his cohorts.  That group did not 
even participate in the Positive Action Campaign.  
I would like to say though that the attempt to denigrate the fresh and vigorous 
debates on public issues is a pot shot to suppress views.  A high school 
teacher once said hot air is released as a result of combustion when various 
gasses clash inside the human body.  I would ordinarily disregard the lousy 
comments of attack dogs who are sent to spoil good things because they are 
often misinformed and lazy to inquire.  We should be doing more than just 
trying to scrape each others eyes out each time a golden opportunity comes to 
raise the PAC from the doldrums.  Multi media platforms and ICT have a wider 
reach, and the importance of spaces like the PAYCO Forum cannot be ignored.  In 
fact it is foolhardy to claim that those who contribute to the discussions are 
engaged in empty talk.  The internet technology is a revolutionary contribution 
to communications on a worldwide basis, and it has a quick and wider reach.  We 
must learn to use it effectively.
Let us rather contribute to the substance of the contributions in a fair manner 
and avoid releasing hot air.  The PAC is a melting pot of ideas from various 
angles:  the faith communities, the Marxists, the libertarians, the working 
people, the middle class, and others.  We have to allow an expression of these 
ideas to make sense of the hardships that are visiting the African people.  In 
this way we can collectively serve the Azanian masses better.  
Jaki          

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: RE: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY RUSTENBURG REVIEW FINAL EDIT.pdf
Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2012 08:32:29 +0200

Comrades most of africanist are armedchair revolutionaries incapable of doing 
anything.theirs is to engage in empty talk.we cannot keep on talking about 
marikana and yet fail to go there and mix with those affected miners and their 
families.those who considers themselves as majonis and revolutionaries in 
theory and empty in practice are exposed.naratiny and analysis the marikana 
situation without geting involved get us nowhere.i think we are exposing 
ourselves as reactionaries. From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi
Sent: 22 August 2012 07:19 PM
To: [email protected]
Cc: [email protected]
Subject: Re: RE: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY RUSTENBURG REVIEW FINAL EDIT.pdf 
Comrade Sebenzile
More mineworkers will continue to resign from NUM and seek alternative trade 
unions. As far as I know in 2010 majority of these workers declared to follow 
the Kroondal Murray and Roberts mineworkers methods.
Facts is mineworkers and many within the manufacturing and energy industry lost 
faith and confidence in NUM and NUMSA including NEHAWU in the public sector. 
This translates to a rise of political conscioussness also about the ANC.
The most unfortunate state is vocal absence political alternative to mobilise 
and focus this workers! 
Mr. Raymond Mashilo Kgagudi
Cellphone: 0749226361
Email: [email protected]
On 22 Aug 2012 17:02, "Sebenzile Mlaza" <[email protected]> wrote:
Comrade Seroke, We, as a party are seriously suffocated by some opportunists 
inside the party and by compradors in the ANC-led government, who are in 
cohorts with the mass media, and I believe one of these days we need to craft a 
workable plan going forward. Time is something we don’t have, we urgently need 
to get our house in order. I mean, we may decide to keep quite, but for how 
long. Meanwhile, Black people are extremely suffocated by the system both at 
the workplace and at their partly tarred neighbourhoods – this I know for sure 
from my own personal experience (I don’t have time to dwell much on this). We 
can no longer afford the luxury of keeping quite and forever glossing over the 
national question, we seriously and urgently need to get our house back on 
track. Izwe lethu ...i-AfrikaSebenzile  From: [email protected] 
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jaki Seroke
Sent: 21 August 2012 12:06 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY RUSTENBURG REVIEW FINAL EDIT.pdf Comrades 
TT and Nkrumah The Benchmark Research gives a detailed background to the 
conditions which formed the basis of mass protests by the communities in 
Rustenburg and surrounding areas, and Nkrumah lays out the internal conflicts 
in the mines between management and the unions on the one hand and between the 
union leadership and its membership on the other, which all eventually led to 
the Marikana butchery of mineworkers. And Jacob Zuma with Riah Phiyega (the 
newly appointed national commissioner of police) say we should not point 
fingers. The trade unions are designed to subsume the workers into tools of 
capital, to be willingly exploited with their own consent and to have token 
power or make belief in the process of decision making.  Their only strength is 
the numbers which they sometimes use for 'tools down' and 'legal strikes'.  
Their power to bargain is directly removed from them through a representation 
by the leadership of trade unions who do not value them and care for their 
needs.  It is the same thing as political parties and parliament.  Leaders in 
trade unions and in political parties represent themselves. No, they represent 
big business.  If you listened to the spokespersons of the National Union of 
Mineworkers in the build up to the Marikana butchery of workers and in the 
current aftermath you could swear that you were having a terrible nightmare.  
It is shockingly very real.  What should happen is that the power of 
decision-making in the labour unions should rest with the shop steward council. 
 These are true representatives of workers - on the shop floor, in the coal 
face, with proximity to their constituencies.  Officials in their comfortable 
and cozy offices are only interested in the compound subscriptions so as to 
earn from them super salaries and, in conflict of interest, to misdirect and 
misinform workers in the long term.  At the last NUM conference in June its 
president Zukwana focused on and proposed that men should march naked on the 
Goodman gallery.  How does that help the Lonmin mineworkers who have had this 
burning issue all along?  Labour union leadership should consciously take the 
stand point of workers in living style and in political outlook.  By the bye, 
the NUM was established after an initiative of Africanists who worked with 
CUSA, then led by Piroshaw Camay in the early eighties.  Cyril with his Black 
Consciousness background was a legal consultant briefed to draft the union 
constitution and initially represent the workers.  It was a practical decision 
to have him become the first Secretary General.  The PAC was weak in Europe 
where union support emanated, and the PAC labour secretariat did not have an 
extended network of union contacts to support this big project.  Cyril's love 
of power and money got a better hold on him and he 'crosstituted' with NUM to 
the Charterists.  It is more or less the same thing with NACTU affiliates.  
This is the union aristocracy Nkrumah talks about.  It is a fiefdom - personal 
empire building.  Look at the profiles of SGs in SACWU, BCAWU, etc. Even our 
Black Consciousness partners unashamedly supped with management or government - 
Skosana, Cindi, Nevholobodwe, etc.  It is very difficult to distinguish between 
Frans Paleni, SG of NUM, and the CEO of Lonmin. I hold the opinion that our 
inconsistency and self-doubt, and the lack of rigorous ideological debates, 
particularly in the past 27 years, have broken down the relationship we have 
always had with the Azanian masses.  We in the PAC are the custodians of the 
aspirations of the fighting forces in the Rustenburg communities and in the 
shanties around the mines.  There is no other organisation that is designed to 
articulate and champion the interests of African masses such as the PAC.  When 
the mineworkers of Lonmin broke ranks with NUM their first port of call was the 
PAC.  What does that tell you?  The NUM leadership and the government security 
apparatus decided to kill out of fear rather than reason.  They will then buy 
time and make up excuses in the commission that Zuma is calling for.  Rural 
folk invariably resort to traditional rituals when faced with insurmountable 
difficulties.  They consult healers and spirit mediums, and they take these 
rituals seriously.  In themselves the rituals are not a crime and they are not 
dangerous.  People sing and dance with long knifes and machetes at weddings.  
Like everything else, there is a window of opportunity to give a different 
interpretation of cultural practice to suit political ends.  In this case, when 
its suits the ANC government the mineworkers are said to have been armed and 
dangerous.  I'd admit that some culture vultures use their positions for 
personal benefit at the expense of innocent people. There are charlatans who 
could be doing opportunistic trade and taking advantage of the situation.  
However it does not warrant a massacre.  The SADF used the Kwa Zulu rural folk 
in similar conditions to fan the fires of a low intensity warfare. We in the 
PAC could not then (and cannot now) make a serious intervention politically.  
We are inconsistent in our interpretations of events and in our practice; we 
have self-doubt in the responsibility to work with and lead the masses; and we 
tend to become childish, sycophants and one dimensional instead of holding 
serious debates internally that will end in a clear line of march.  I was in 
the PAC leadership structures when the party president unilaterally decided to 
pay a visit and shake hands with Oupa Gcozo, Ciskei military/political head, 
after defenceless protesters were butchered.  Mandela had said in 1990 that 
Oupa Gcozo was a hero when he staged a coup in the bantustan.  The Chaarterists 
 were reversing their association with Gcozo when the Bisho match was poorly 
organized, and led to the killing of about 10 people.  The PAC leadership on 
the other hand was out of sync with the people - hence the Judas visit.  This 
was a monumental political blunder and lack of discipline from the number one 
office of the Party.  He went to congratulate the killers of African people.  
Leaders must learn to consult widely within the organisation; they must hold 
true to the strategic objectives of the party; they must have broad shoulders 
and accept constructive criticism by their members; and, they must be willing 
to sacrifice their own selfish interests, and become practical and symbolic 
representatives of the collective leadership.  In this instance, the man had 
committed sacrilege.  His sycophant supporters  saw nothing wrong.  My gripe is 
that we in the new millenium have not discussed and reviewed these errors of 
the PAC because we there is a reactionary tendency to nurse the feelings of 
powerful selfish individuals.  We are then prone to do the same mistakes.       
 Phiyega says she 'is not sorry' about the death of 44 mineworkers in Marikana. 
 What is difference with Jimmy Kruger's 'dit laat my koud' after the murder of 
Steve Biko? Zuma appointed her on the basis of a nice cv and her nearness to 
the government programmes.  The SAPS has strong pockets of organisational 
cultures internally, and in most cases the professional police are overlooked 
when senior appointments are made.  It is doubtful she would make any 
difference since she as an outsider will only be a lame-duck national 
commissioner.  The acting national commissioner before her appointment was 
overlooked after he'd raised the unprofessional conduct and scandals of the 
head of crime intelligence in cahoot with the minister of police.  There are 
only ten water cannon trucks for crown control in the SAPS nationwide and only 
one was used in Marikana.  There is evidence of only one pistol taken from a 
dead policeman a week earlier.  The contingent of 450 police(men) invaded the 
mountain of striking workers - not otherwise.  I ask you to close your eyes and 
picture in your mind the marauding colonial army shooting at African formations 
of resistance, and please tell me the differences with the butchery of 
Marikana.  The former you can imagine - the latter you have the advantage of 
real footage of the incident. Jaki                Date: Tue, 21 Aug 2012 
08:51:22 +0200
Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY RUSTENBURG REVIEW FINAL EDIT.pdf
From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]

Comrade Xundu
There Lonmin occurance is not new in the past twenty four months mainly in 
Rustenburg area mineworkers had been resigning from NUM en masse to other trade 
union. Similar occurance happened in Welkom Harmony Gold and some of the Angol 
Gold mines. At all occurances NUM has always been and enjoyed support and 
consent of Mine management, Municipal and SAPS has always acted on the basis of 
political instructions against mineworkers, example is Kroondale Murray and 
Robert mineworkers leaders had been imprisoned. Certainly, NUM as a workers 
formation is under direct control of a deep rooted labour aristocracy who's 
interests is protection is of the deracialised capitalist mode of production 
managed by the neocolonial ANC Government and state including parliament. At 
the roots of the matter is the political potential and rising conscioussness 
among mineworkers to expose and act contrary to the dominant class interests. 

About NACTU, we should not be deceived that NACTU is pro-PAC, NACTU leadesrhip 
has maintained a constitent position that NACTU is political independent thus 
will not aligned with any political party including PAC. Attempts made to 
organise and systematically influence and win majority of workers particularly 
affiliates of NACTU to embrace, support and champion and identify openly with 
the aims and objectives of the PAC by the efforts made through the 
reorganisation of PALF were countered by comrades who formed Africanists in 
Labour. Most NACTU affiliates are known as strike breakers and their apolitical 
policy position has reduced them to be yellow trade trade union, suffering also 
from a highly rooted labour aristocracy some owning businesses and Investment 
Companies without being accountable and transparent to workers thus also 
perpetuating exploitation of the black African workers. 
Now, the current task aims at using concrete experiences of workers and trade 
unions so as to deliberate and provide the political context as to what options 
should be pursued in light of the rising workers's resentment of and 
resignation from trade unions. In South Africa, less than 30% of employees are 
trade union members this implies that there is more than 7million workers not 
belonging to any trade union with NACTU membership having dropped from an 
estimated 300 000 members to less than 80 000 membership characterised by very 
small and insignificant trade unions. Drawing from these research and 
experiences many hold, some of the daunting questions is from a socialist 
perspective should we be linked to a specific trade unions or as a 
revolutionary party we should urge a principled political unity of workers 
beyond narrow trade union limitations? How do we as a paety develop and 
strengthen an African proletarian approach and thrust to agitate African 
workers' class interest and forge a political unity and action of workers for a 
seizure of state political power? Do trade unions in South Africa forge workers 
division or unity for or beyond narrow economic interests and without negating 
workers's immediate demand?
The recent developments dictate that we should sharpen and formulate political 
methods to mobilise and organise african workers based on a socialist programme 
for siezure of state political power, total liberation and unification of 
Africa.
Mr. Raymond Mashilo Kgagudi
Cellphone: 0749226361
Email: [email protected] 21 Aug 2012 07:08, "tembelani xundu" 
<[email protected]> wrote:Son of the Soil  I assume you are better placed to 
analyse and even speculate what may the cause behind butchering of workers at 
Marikana. I do not believe for a moment that the equivalent of Special Forces 
ie the National Intervention Unit can be mobilised to handle crowd control. The 
very fact that they were mobilised to me indicates that the Minister of Police 
by extension the government planned to do as they did. But what motivated them, 
is it to send a statement to those who are busy defining themselves outside 
COSATU? By the way what is the footprint of our NACTU in the mining and 
construction industry? Tembelani From: Nkrumah <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] 
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2012 11:01 AM
Subject: [PAYCO] Emailing: 6 MAY RUSTENBURG REVIEW FINAL EDIT.pdf
Greetings comrades

Find attached research about the state of mineworkers in Rustenburg Area. We 
wi...
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