Nobody challenges members freedom of association as long as its not in conflict with party position. When we joined PAC we were accepting also that our individual views are subordinate to that of PAC.
Policy positions remain cardinal in this unnecessary debate. One raised a concern on the basis that the comrade was making a call that PAC members must participate on this campaign and when he further elaborated he indicated that this call was made in the name of PAC and PAYCO. Then if its done in the name of PAC we'll definately object as the call is not founded on party policy position. Comrades are more than welcome to participate and lead NGO's in their individual being and there will be no objection whatsoever. Lack of policy does not give members a license to do as they please and pronounce on issues outside proper constitutional structures. Doing that will be feeding anarchy and urinating on organizational discipline. Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! -----Original Message----- From: SOSO MASHILOANE <[email protected]> Sender: [email protected] Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 22:06:03 To: <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: Fw: PAC Joburg will join the march In regardless of party position we remain activist in different constituent groups as individuals. No one could claim that he or she started being an activist after joining the party. Therefore I appeal to our comrades that, if its a good cause worth fighting for join and make a different in your own community, Don`t wait for party positions as our party lack proper structures or platform to shape its own policy. However members must distanced themselves in representing the party without a mandate or party position. Edwin Soso --- On Tue, 11/6/12, Bongani Keith <[email protected]> wrote: From: Bongani Keith <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: Fw: PAC Joburg will join the march To: [email protected] Date: Tuesday, November 6, 2012, 9:10 PM Comrade lack of party/payco policy on energy is creating a vacuum in propagatin' our position. I wil suggest to those cadres who have been invited to ask themselves question what will payco achieve in this regard? As i don't believe that payco should partake in this march we've nothing to gain. On 11/6/12, linda ndebele <[email protected]> wrote: > There's no policy position I know on this issue in the PAC. When you partake > as PAYCO or PAC it should be founded on policy position of the party, when > we represent the party in different platforms in reality we advance party > policy position not ourselves and our individual views. We need to look at > the pros & cons of the issue not mere excitement. Mandela made the decision > to stop nuclear proliferation in SA out of excitement and to please the > outside world, the consequences had devastating effects to the poor and > working class in the form of exorbitant electricity prices and billions > wasted maintaining nuclear infrastructure that no longer service society. > > I believe PAC government with its industrial strategy founded on > fast-tracking economic emancipation and massive industrialization we cannot > afford to dismiss nuclear energy completely. Of course we should also make > radical steps to move to environmentally friendly renewable energy but we > can't perform miracles, western powers who are major polluters must lead the > way, they can't have it both ways, proponents of renewable energy and keep > nuclear energy. Africa's pollution is less than 1%, for me these campaigns > are misplaced they must target western polluters. > > Let's look these issues from the correct political context informed by our > socioeconomic challenges and standing in world politics. > > Linda > Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! > > -----Original Message----- > From: sello Tladi <[email protected]> > Sender: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 14:47:15 > To: <[email protected]> > Reply-To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [PAYCO] Fwd: Fw: PAC Joburg will join the march > > Izwe Lethu! > Comrade President,Iam expecting you as my political Principal to be more > informed around the > issues of Green politics Renewable energy a.We are not opposed to > industrial development however we are opposed to the use of nuclear energy > hence there are environmental friendly alternatives that could be > used,Green Renewable Energy and solar are the alternative.We cannot allow > the corporates and Western countries continue to use Nuclear energy that is > polluting our environment and putting the lives of the working class at > risk.The law of money making doesn't care for the laws of nature. > > Cde President should we keep quite when the Developed Capitalist countries > are exporting the ecological crisis to Africa,by dumping toxic waste and > establishing the most environmentally destructive industries in Africa. > > I will continue to PUSH this campaigns,as I sit in the Green Energy Forum > on my capacity as PAYCO NEC Member and Community activist.There are future > workshops planned to empower our constituencies around Green Politics > (Environment/Energy).I > Comrades around Soweto please contact me for transport. > > Sello Tladi > PAYCO(NEC Member and National Spokesperson) > 083 859 1654 > > On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 1:56 AM, linda ndebele > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> ** >> PAC would join the march on what basis? Is it a principled policy >> position >> or NGO opportunistic position? >> >> From a developing country that needs urgent boost on industrialization >> and >> massive need of energy resources, nuclear remains an important option. >> >> We just cannot join a bandwagon of western countries who are developed >> and >> used the very cheap nuclear energy to get where they are today. >> Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! >> ------------------------------ >> *From: * sello Tladi <[email protected]> >> *Sender: * [email protected] >> *Date: *Sun, 4 Nov 2012 01:38:14 -0800 >> *To: *<[email protected]> >> *ReplyTo: * [email protected] >> *Subject: *[PAYCO] Fwd: Fw: PAC Joburg will join the march >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On *Sun, 11/4/12, lehlohonolo Shale >> <[email protected]>*wrote: >> >> >> From: lehlohonolo Shale <[email protected]> >> Subject: PAC Joburg will join the march >> To: [email protected] >> Date: Sunday, November 4, 2012, 11:30 AM >> >> >> Dear Cde >> >> We are planning to participate in the march below. >> >> Regards >> Hloni >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> [image: file:///tmp/NuclearPamphlet_Front.jpg] >> -- >> >> >> >> >> -- >> Sending your posting to [email protected] >> >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] >> >> You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco >> >> Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com >> >> -- >> Sending your posting to [email protected] >> >> Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] >> >> You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco >> >> Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com >> > > -- > Sending your posting to [email protected] > > Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] > > You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco > > Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com > > -- > Sending your posting to [email protected] > > Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] > > You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco > > Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com > -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com -- Sending your posting to [email protected] Unsubscribe by sending an email to [email protected] You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com
