Comrade Vusi, which conference, when and where?
-----Original Message----- From: a.r.mal...@gmail.com [mailto:a.r.mal...@gmail.com] Sent: 05 July 2013 08:32 PM To: nrkgag...@gmail.com; payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: My view MOAFRICA RAY AS THERE WILL BE A CONFERENCE,I HAVE A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM WHERE I HAVE SIGNED NEW MEMBERS IN MY BRANCH AND SOME WANT TO GO CONFERENCE.HOW WILL THEY BE IN GOOD STANDING AS THEY DON'T HAVE MEMBERSHIP CARDS.I HAVE BEEN WAITNG SINCE LAST YEAR.I DONT WANT TO GO IN DETAILS AS OUR SG moloto SAID I WAS OUT OF ORDER.HOPING TO HEAR FROM YOU MO AFRICA AS YOU ALWAYS GIVE WORDS OF COURAGE ---------- Sent via Nokia Email ------Original message------ From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi <nrkgag...@gmail.com> To: <payco@googlegroups.com> Date: Friday, July 5, 2013 1:46:27 PM GMT+0200 Subject: RE: [PAYCO] RE: My view NM please give your full details and contacts, such that any party member who takes the task as you propose is able to interact with you and all to know! Who is NM? From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of vusie Sent: 05 July 2013 01:12 PM To: Payco Subject: Re: [PAYCO] RE: My view Hi Nkrumah M'afrika thanks for your contribution in this movement, one was hoping to meet with you in Joburg last week. Unity conference resolved that we must reach out to those africanists that we don't seem to share common perspective on issues, in that spirit please ensure that you invite M'Afrika Letlapa and I also invite Narius together with Provincial Chairpersons to meet and resolve differences so that we take our movement forward. The how part is very critical in our proposed solution. We hope you take up this offer and we unite this movement. Izwe lethu. NM Sent via my BlackBerry from Vodacom - let your email find you! _____ From: "Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi" <nrkgag...@gmail.com> Sender: payco@googlegroups.com Date: Fri, 5 Jul 2013 11:50:09 +0200 To: <payco@googlegroups.com> ReplyTo: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: RE: [PAYCO] RE: My view Comrade Xola Interesting citation of Emperor Selassie, but such should be contextualised, it will be indecorous to deem actions not supportive of a particular subjective ilk as indecisiveness nor procrastination. Lets conclude that inaction is a refusal to support factionalism and self-serving adventures initiated by those who hides under sound and sane statements while brewing conflict and fuelling cabals. For long comrades including some NEC members had been cautioned and also to refrain for using incorrect and ill-conceived methods, Albert Einstein described irrational approach to problem solving as "Insanity" in which one is "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results". When NEC members justifies an unconstitutional approach surely we are facing a scarcity of rational and objective approach and analysis of what has become complex and deep rooted party problems, indeed they become indifferent as Emperor Selassie alludes. Fundamentally one hold the view that your advance that 'absence of deliberate programmes is one of the primary causes' is incorrect, there is a dismal failure to conclude an execution strategy of/for the 1959 Pan Africanist Manifesto hence the current party political paralysis. In addition the class character of the party leadership across all structures amounts to an additional ideo-political problem compounding and adding of the impasse/dead end. Furthermore, the PAC branches and members since 1990 failed to sober up and reflect on the in-depth and width of the persisting party problems. Since 1994 PAC congresses and conferences aimed to perform only one function 'regime change or change of leadership', less focus has been given on crucial political and organisational aspects, such habits are commonly engineered by individual leaders and/or members who commonly advances their subjective interests as it is with the recent palace coup's . Ordinary members asked a basic question and still remain unanswered about the recent palace coup's , members and branches asked "Why NEC members did not wait until the annual national conference which was supposed to take place in July 2013, the frustration and obstacles experienced by NEC and undermines effective functioning of the NEC as a collective? To date there has been no answer. We should be drawing from past experiences that consistent attack on leadership and leadership infighting characterised by palace coups failed to yield the desired outcomes for the PAC. WE also know and understand very well that it followed from the special theory of relativity that mass and energy are both but different manifestations of the same thing! Remember Plaatjie agitated some members against Mogoba, today we are witnessing the same. Regrettably, to correct mistaken ideas and methods a finger or fingers will be used to locate (identify) actions and methods that have become a liability for the party. We must break a vicious circle responsible of the PAC's paralysis to march forward this also demand denouncing a self-serving-factionalist approach by those who claim to be acting in the interests of the PAC. It is now common knowledge that the current NEC is split into Pro-Narius Group and Pro-Letlapa Group, each making a claim of being the legitimate one. PAC members and branches should not support any but demand the entire NEC to act and function as elected at the Butterworth National Congress in 2012 July. An inclusive national conference should be convened to focus and deliberate on key strategic issues. Shango lashu Nkrumah From: payco@googlegroups.com [mailto:payco@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Xola George Tyamzashe Sent: 04 July 2013 04:10 PM To: payco@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [PAYCO] RE: My view Cde Nkrumah, in response to your concern allow me to quote H.I.M. Emperor Haile Selassie I when he said: "Throughout history, it has been the inaction of those who could have acted; the indifference of those who should have known better; the silence of the voice of justice when it mattered most; that has made it possible for evil to triumph." Now that it has been evident to all that indeed there's been infighting...shouldn't we ALL be identifying the problems or causes of the infights, the first step towards the solutions. The absence of deliberate programes is one of the primary causes of the current limbo. Interestingly the solution to the current party state is there in the PAC Basic Documents. What the party needs are genuine cadres to and true leaders to stand up and take ownership for the shipwreck...pointing of fingers will never take us anywhere, the PAC needs us all as clearly, as Achebe said, things are falling apart - the centre cannot hold and the falcon cannot hear the falconer. Izwe lethu! From: Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi <nrkgag...@gmail.com> To: sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; 'Tongogara Ndima' <ndimatongog...@gmail.com> Cc: 'vakele mkandawire' <mvak...@gmail.com>; 'Johnson Mlambo' <river.mla...@telkomsa.net>; 'Joe Thloloe' <thlo...@mweb.co.za>; 'Jaki Seroke' <sero...@hotmail.com>; 'Jerry Vakasha' <visitvaka...@mweb.co.za>; 'Ray Johnson' <itumelengjohn...@yahoo.com>; 'Julian Mohlala' <mohlala.teb...@gmail.com>; 'Kindo Makhanda' <makhandatu...@yahoo.com>; 'Khethamabala Sithole' <ksith...@parliament.gov.za>; 'Advocate K Sizani' <sizan...@mweb.co.za>; 'Baliwinile Kwankwa' <baliwin...@yahoo.com>; 'KK Kekana' <lesib...@hotmail.co.za>; 'Kenny Bafo' <kb...@uwc.ac.za>; 'Kgomotso Matsebe' <missk...@live.com>; 'Khensani Teffu' <khensanite...@yahoo.com>; 'King Lebea' <k...@vodamail.co.za>; 'Lucky Khoza' <magigw...@gmail.com>; 'Malusi Kolie' <malusiko...@mtn.blackberry.com>; 'Phillip Kgosana' <pakgos...@lantic.net>; 'Tommy Kantando' <tommykanta...@yahoo.co.uk>; 'wiseman mashego' <kwmash...@gmail.com>; kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; kub...@telkomsa.net; 'APLAMVA LIMPOMPO' <aplamval...@gmail.com>; 'Gerald Lerobane' <gerald.lerob...@gmail.com>; 'L Lekgwathi' <0825164...@vodamail.co.za>; 'Leaga Lesufi' <leag...@yahoo.com>; 'Lehlohonolo Shale' <lehlohonolosh...@yahoo.com>; 'Lesomepedi Boshego' <lesomepedi.bosh...@facebook.com>; 'Letlapa Mphahlele' <mphahle...@gmail.com>; 'Lethola Mofokeng' <lpmofok...@webmail.co.za>; 'Lucky Moeketsi' <moeketsilu...@yahoo.com>; 'Lumkile August' <lumki...@yahoo.co.uk>; luyand...@gmail.com; 'Simon Moeketsi' <slmoeke...@hotmail.com>; 'Sello Letjala' <sello.letj...@ricoh.co.za>; znd...@hotmail.com; 'Puseletso Zwane' <czw...@telkomsa.net>; 'Zamikhaya Gxabe' <gxa...@gmail.com>; 'Zandi Radebe' <zandirad...@gmail.com>; 'Zola Mbi' <zo...@vodamail.co.za>; 'Zukisa Mxesibe' <zmxes...@gmail.com>; 'Zuko Camagu' <camagu.z...@yahoo.com>; 'Zuko Hlulani' <ezh...@gmail.com>; 'Sbusiso Xaba' <sbusiso.x...@gmail.com>; 'Tembelani Xundu' <ttxu...@yahoo.com>; 'Xola Mketi' <xt2mk...@hotmail.com>; 'Xola Tyamzashe' <notification+kjdmv___d...@facebookmail.com>; 'Xolani Mabanga' <xolan...@webmail.co.za>; 'Xolani Makwedini' <umhlab...@gmail.com>; 'Xolelwa Njamela' <tiggres...@yahoo.com>; 'Mthuthuzeli Vena' <mthuthuzeliv...@yahoo.com>; 'Samuel Marole' <samuelmar...@gmail.com>; 'Vusi Mahlangu' <vemahla...@gmail.com>; 'Vuyiswa Cekwana' <soniacekw...@webmail.co.za>; vumilemof...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; 'PAYCO Azania' <paycoofaza...@gmail.com>; jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; jabumakha...@yahoo.com; 'Andiswa Mjali' <mja...@pac.org.za>; montja...@yahoo.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; 'Justice Mvakali' <justicemvak...@gmail.com>; 'Themba Hlatshwayo' <mokoenamph...@yahoo.com>; g...@bcawu.co.za; g...@nactu.org.za; apap...@webmail.co.za; 'Wandisile Mandlana' <wmandl...@gmail.com>; rakwe...@yahoo.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; rmtl...@gmail.com; rmse...@gmail.com; rateb...@webmail.co.za; 'Themba Hlatshwayo' <hlatshwayothe...@webmail.co.za>; telite...@gmail.com; 'Thembeka Majali' <thembekamaj...@yahoo.com>; tob...@yahoo.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; twa...@pac.org.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; yolisamazo...@gmail.com; ikeyisa...@gmail.com; 'Malesela Mogashwa' <icuworkersun...@gmail.com>; 'Ike Mafole' <mmaf...@gmail.com>; 'Albert Mokoena' <mokoen...@workmail.co.za>; ad...@pac.org.za; 'Archie Kota' <ak...@pennypinchers.co.za>; a...@joburg.org.za; a...@a-aprp-gc.org; azaania...@gmail.com; angwa...@webmail.co.za; samrad...@upd.co.za; solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; 'Sipho Linda' <comrademkho...@gmail.com>; 'Fitzroy Ngcukana' <standingovat...@webmail.co.za>; dannymonar...@gmail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com; frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; 'Fihla Brig Gen' <mr.fi...@webmail.co.za>; 'Gantsu' <mbuyigan...@yahoo.com>; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; justice.mvak...@gmail.com; ju-...@webmail.co.za; 'PASMA Gauteng' <kalidiekets...@yahoo.com>; khoi.so...@gmail.com; leratolepha...@ymail.com; leaga.les...@up.ac.za; 'Lulamile Ntonzima' <74...@hotmail.co.za>; 'Zwelethemba Twalo' <zweshfik...@yahoo.com>; ckoms...@yahoo.com; crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; va...@webmail.co.za; 'Bra Mike Motsobane' <matsoba...@tiscali.co.za>; baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; nancykob...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; 'Malinge Plaatjie' <malingeplaat...@yahoo.com>; mafub...@hotmail.com; 'Mathapelo Dhlamini' <madlhlam...@webmail.co.za>; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; mpumele...@gmail.com; 'Manelisi Mampana' <manelisi.mamp...@gmail.com>; mphash...@webmail.co.za; maiv...@pac.org.za; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com; 'Mawethu Sidzamba' <mawethusidza...@yahoo.com>; nkrumah.kgag...@ananzi.co.za Sent: Thursday, July 4, 2013 3:18 PM Subject: [PAYCO] RE: My view Comrades This infighting will proceed until when? It has become evident and crystal clear, the purpose of PAC's existence has been long forgotten! PAC's programmes including Aims and Objectives are forgotten! Shango lashu Nkrumah Raymond Kgagudi -----Original Message----- From: sndam...@pac-cape.org.za [mailto:sndam...@pac-cape.org.za] Sent: 04 July 2013 01:47 PM To: Tongogara Ndima Cc: 'vakele mkandawire'; 'Johnson Mlambo'; 'Joe Thloloe'; 'Jaki Seroke'; 'Jerry Vakasha'; 'Ray Johnson'; 'Julian Mohlala'; 'Kindo Makhanda'; 'Khethamabala Sithole'; 'Advocate K Sizani'; 'Baliwinile Kwankwa'; 'KK Kekana'; 'Kenny Bafo'; 'Kgomotso Matsebe'; 'Khensani Teffu'; 'King Lebea'; 'Lucky Khoza'; 'Malusi Kolie'; 'Phillip Kgosana'; 'Tommy Kantando'; 'wiseman mashego'; kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; kub...@telkomsa.net; 'APLAMVA LIMPOMPO'; 'Gerald Lerobane'; 'L Lekgwathi'; 'Leaga Lesufi'; 'Lehlohonolo Shale'; 'Lesomepedi Boshego'; 'Letlapa Mphahlele'; 'Lethola Mofokeng'; 'Lucky Moeketsi'; 'Lumkile August'; luyand...@gmail.com; 'Simon Moeketsi'; 'Sello Letjala'; znd...@hotmail.com; 'Puseletso Zwane'; 'Zamikhaya Gxabe'; 'Zandi Radebe'; 'Zola Mbi'; 'Zukisa Mxesibe'; 'Zuko Camagu'; 'Zuko Hlulani'; 'Sbusiso Xaba'; 'Tembelani Xundu'; 'Xola Mketi'; 'Xola Tyamzashe'; 'Xolani Mabanga'; 'Xolani Makwedini'; 'Xolelwa Njamela'; 'Mthuthuzeli Vena'; 'Samuel Marole'; 'Vusi Mahlangu'; 'Vuyiswa Cekwana'; vumilemof...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; 'PAYCO Azania'; jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; jabumakha...@yahoo.com; 'Andiswa Mjali'; montja...@yahoo.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; 'Justice Mvakali'; 'Themba Hlatshwayo'; g...@bcawu.co.za; g...@nactu.org.za; apap...@webmail.co.za; 'Wandisile Mandlana'; rakwe...@yahoo.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; rmtl...@gmail.com; rmse...@gmail.com; rateb...@webmail.co.za; 'Themba Hlatshwayo'; telite...@gmail.com; 'Thembeka Majali'; tob...@yahoo.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; twa...@pac.org.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; yolisamazo...@gmail.com; ikeyisa...@gmail.com; 'Malesela Mogashwa'; 'Ike Mafole'; 'Albert Mokoena'; ad...@pac.org.za; 'Archie Kota'; a...@joburg.org.za; a...@a-aprp-gc.org; azaania...@gmail.com; angwa...@webmail.co.za; samrad...@upd.co.za; solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; 'Sipho Linda'; 'Fitzroy Ngcukana'; dannymonar...@gmail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com; frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; 'Fihla Brig Gen'; 'Gantsu'; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; justice.mvak...@gmail.com; ju-...@webmail.co.za; 'PASMA Gauteng'; khoi.so...@gmail.com; leratolepha...@ymail.com; leaga.les...@up.ac.za; 'Lulamile Ntonzima'; 'Zwelethemba Twalo'; ckoms...@yahoo.com; crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; va...@webmail.co.za; 'Bra Mike Motsobane'; baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; nancykob...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; 'Malinge Plaatjie'; mafub...@hotmail.com; 'Mathapelo Dhlamini'; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; mpumele...@gmail.com; 'Manelisi Mampana'; mphash...@webmail.co.za; maiv...@pac.org.za; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com; 'Mawethu Sidzamba'; nrkgag...@gmail.com; nkrumah.kgag...@ananzi.co.za Subject: My view Comrades, The organization is floating deeper into confusion and that confusion is perpetrated by people who are called leadership and those who seek to safe guard their personal gains. . . We can call as many gatherings in trying to make things right. . . it is clear that the leadership as elected in Butterworth is not interested in the PAC but their personal interests. Cde Letlapa Mphahlele, has to sit face to face with the NEC as elected in Butterworth if they suspend him (right or wrongly), the PAC Constitution gives avenues to appeal if one feels there is an unfair treatment on his/her hearing. This applies to Cdes Mpethi, Moloto, Joko and any other person. What we know as members and structures is that: i) the PAC NEC suspended, charged and expelled Cde. Mphahlele ii) that Cde. Mphahlele went to court and prayed for a) 11 MAY 2013 NEC meeting resolutions invalid b) his expulsion to be set aside c) dissolving NEC meeting constituted on the 11 MAY 2013 iii) the court ORDER: a) the 11 MAY 2013 meeting is declared invalid b) the resolutions of this meeting are declared invalid c) the expulsion is set aside iv) the application for Leave of Appeal against the above ORDER has been filed and confirmed at the court roll. v) we know who are the NEC members who constituted the 11 MAY 2013 NEC meeting. We also know that: 1) Cde. Mphahlele convened an NEC meeting on the 18 MAY 2013 2) PAC as an Applicant filed against Cde Mphahlele to bar the sitting of the 18 MAY 2013 meeting 3) the court ORDER: i) the Respondent (Mphahlele) gives an undertaking not to hold the meeting of 18 MAY 2013 to be held at the Vaal, ii) this matter be postponed to normal motion roll 4) the meeting of 18 MAY 2013 set without Cde Mphahlele 5) the meeting of 18 MAY 2013 resolved: a) declared the 11 MAY 2013 NEC meeting an unconstitutional and illegal gathering b) Reaffirms Cde Mphahlele as the President c) Suspends with immediate effect- Deputy President Cde Mpethi - Secretary General Cde Moloto - Deputy SG Cde Joko d) Appoints -> Chief Administrator Cde Mkandawire -> NDC e) Convenes Annual National Conference in December 2013 f) Restores powers of the Treasurer 6) Cde Mphahlele signed the resolutions of the 18 MAY 2013 7) Cde Mphahlele as PAC President issued a communique that STOP structures to attend anything organized by Cde Mpethi, Moloto and Joko, sighting that they don't authority as they are in contempt of the court order. 8) Cde Mphahlele is convening an NEC meeting that is extended to all structures to attend on the 13 - 14 JULY 2013 in the Vaal. IT MUST BE NOTED: a) Anything with regards to 11 MAY 2013 meeting is in the Appeals at the HIGH COURT b) Cde Mphahlele complied with the Court, NOT to attend the 18 MAY 2013 meeting WHAT WE ARE NOT TOLD: i) Given that Cde Mphahlele gave an undertaking in COURT not to hold a meeting of 18 MAY 2013 to be held in the Vaal; WHAT is the status of that meeting ? ii) Since the 11 MAY 2013 meeting was unconstitutional and illegal; WHO attended the 18 MAY 2013, WHAT makes this meeting Constitutional and Legal over the 11 MAY 2013 ? iii) WHAT made Cde Mphahlele to sign Resolutions of the meeting he gave an undertaking in court that he will not hold and did not personally attend ? iv) WHY the 18 MAY NEC meeting did not appoint Acting people in positions of suspended members, especially the critical position of the Secretary General ? v) HOW far is the disciplinary process of the suspended NEC members as we are in the 7 weeks since letters of suspension were circulated ? In the light of all these happenings irrespective of which NEC side is correct . . . I see us going deeper into this mess. Just imagine when someone from the 11 MAY 2013 NEC meeting decides to go to court over the decision of the 18 MAY 2013 . . . I guarantee you that meeting will be nullified based on i) Court decision: Cde Mphahlele made an undertaking that he will not hold that meeting ii) That meeting quorum is questionable So why are we subjecting ourselves to all these notes above instead of going straight to the Annual National Conference where members who are in good standing will be DELEGATES who can decide on HOW are we taking the PAC forward ! ! ! Otherwise we will be moving in circles going nowhere ! ! I kindly as ask ALL NEC MEMBERS to go for a National Conference . . . there is a date of 9 - 11 Aug 2013 if this is not suitable for ALL of YOU sit together and come up with a suitable date BUT for me the sitting of the National Conference must not be beyond the MONTH OF AUGUST 2013 otherwise you will be deliberately sabotaging the cohesion and progress of the organization . . .you have already done huge damage in the past 12 months ! ! ! The NEC issued a circular for 9 - 11 August Annual National Conference, the otherside of the NEC is dismissing that pointing at December. TO ALL MEMBERS IN THIS EMAIL LIST: We cannot allow this mess to go beyond August 2013. With this infighting amongst the NEC as elected in Butterworth, December is too far. We need to correct things NOW ! If you feel that the Annual National Conference requires specific timelines to convene and the time is not on our side . . . Convene a SPECIAL NATIONAL CONFERENCE the Constitution:[ 5.5 A special National Conference may be convened by the NEC if, in the opinion of the NEC, an emergency which warrants such a conference, has arisen or,]. This can be convened in 30 days . . ! ! ! It must be noted the PAC does not belong to Mphahlele, Moloto, nor Mkandawire . . .the NEC through Moloto called for a National Conference 9 - 11 August; the NEC through Mphahlele is dismissing that call for a National Conference . . . what is this joke ! ! ! We need National Conference 'YESTERDAY' ALREADY ! ! ! iAfrika SIYABULELA NDAMANE 083 790 6470 Quoting Tongogara Ndima <ndimatongog...@gmail.com>: > But Comrades APLAMVA National- Justice, you are being a hypocrites why > demand the attendance register for only the 18 May meeting what about > the > 11 May attendance register? You are part of creating confusion within > the PAC. Moloto called a secrecy NEC meeting you were silence, some > weeks back, when an invite is extended to PAC structures you raise many questions. > > Your attitude is against the unity summit you formed part as APLAMVA > > -----Original Message----- > From: Aplamva [mailto:aplamvanatio...@gmail.com] > Sent: 03 July 2013 03:50 PM > To: 'vakele mkandawire'; 'Johnson Mlambo'; 'Joe Thloloe'; 'Jaki > Seroke'; 'Jerry Vakasha'; 'Ray Johnson'; 'Julian Mohlala'; 'Kindo > Makhanda'; 'Khethamabala Sithole'; 'Advocate K Sizani'; 'Baliwinile > Kwankwa'; 'KK Kekana'; 'Kenny Bafo'; 'Kgomotso Matsebe'; 'Khensani > Teffu'; 'King Lebea'; 'Lucky Khoza'; 'Malusi Kolie'; 'Phillip > Kgosana'; 'Tommy Kantando'; 'wiseman mashego'; > kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; > kub...@telkomsa.net; 'APLAMVA LIMPOMPO'; 'Gerald Lerobane'; 'L > Lekgwathi'; 'Leaga Lesufi'; 'Lehlohonolo Shale'; 'Lesomepedi Boshego'; > 'Letlapa Mphahlele'; 'Lethola Mofokeng'; 'Lucky Moeketsi'; 'Lumkile > August'; luyand...@gmail.com; 'Simon Moeketsi'; 'Sello Letjala'; > znd...@hotmail.com; 'Puseletso Zwane'; 'Zamikhaya Gxabe'; 'Zandi > Radebe'; 'Zola Mbi'; 'Zukisa Mxesibe'; 'Zuko Camagu'; 'Zuko Hlulani'; > 'Sbusiso Xaba'; 'Tembelani Xundu'; 'Xola Mketi'; 'Xola Tyamzashe'; > 'Xolani Mabanga'; 'Xolani Makwedini'; 'Xolelwa Njamela'; 'Mthuthuzeli > Vena'; 'Samuel Marole'; 'Vusi Mahlangu'; 'Vuyiswa Cekwana'; > vumilemof...@yahoo.com; payco@googlegroups.com; > paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; 'PAYCO Azania'; > jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; jabumakha...@yahoo.com; 'Andiswa Mjali'; > montja...@yahoo.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; 'Justice Mvakali'; 'Themba > Hlatshwayo'; g...@bcawu.co.za; g...@nactu.org.za; apap...@webmail.co.za; > 'Wandisile Mandlana'; rakwe...@yahoo.com; richardma...@yahoo.com; > rmtl...@gmail.com; rmse...@gmail.com; rateb...@webmail.co.za; 'Themba > Hlatshwayo'; telite...@gmail.com; 'Thembeka Majali'; tob...@yahoo.com; > tyamza...@yahoo.com; twa...@pac.org.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; > yolisamazo...@gmail.com; ikeyisa...@gmail.com; 'Malesela Mogashwa'; > 'Ike Mafole'; 'Albert Mokoena'; ad...@pac.org.za; 'Archie Kota'; > a...@joburg.org.za; a...@a-aprp-gc.org; azaania...@gmail.com; > angwa...@webmail.co.za; samrad...@upd.co.za; > solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; > sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; 'Sipho Linda'; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; > 'Fitzroy Ngcukana'; dannymonar...@gmail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; > drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com; > frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; 'Fihla Brig Gen'; 'Gantsu'; > hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; > justice.mvak...@gmail.com; ju-...@webmail.co.za; 'PASMA Gauteng'; > khoi.so...@gmail.com; leratolepha...@ymail.com; leaga.les...@up.ac.za; > 'Lulamile Ntonzima'; 'Zwelethemba Twalo'; ckoms...@yahoo.com; > crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; > va...@webmail.co.za; 'Bra Mike Motsobane'; baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; > ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; > nancykob...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; 'Malinge Plaatjie'; > mafub...@hotmail.com; 'Mathapelo Dhlamini'; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; > mpumele...@gmail.com; 'Manelisi Mampana'; mphash...@webmail.co.za; > maiv...@pac.org.za; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com; 'Mawethu > Sidzamba'; nrkgag...@gmail.com; nkrumah.kgag...@ananzi.co.za > Subject: RE: Notice of PAC NEC meeting, invitation extended to PAC > Structures > > Izwe lethu > > What happen to the secretary of the Pac elected in Butterworth as we > now see Mr Vakele as the Chief Administrator. When we were reading the > court order it says the Butterworth Nec members remain as is. And we > still waiting for the copy of the 18 May meeting attendance register > to check if you Mr Vakele was appointed by a properly constituted > forum as a Chief Administrator. Ooh you claim to have suspended the > secretary by the way but still send us the results of the DC that sat > within 14 days after their suspension and the final Nec decision on > the matter, all we saw was their letters that they are suspended by a > meeting of the 18 May whose attendance register is a top secret so hidden because it did not form a quorum. > > Shango lashu > > -----Original Message----- > From: vakele mkandawire [mailto:mvak...@gmail.com] > Sent: 03 July 2013 15:28 > To: Johnson Mlambo; Joe Thloloe; Jaki Seroke; Jerry Vakasha; Ray > Johnson; Julian Mohlala; Kindo Makhanda; Khethamabala Sithole; > Advocate K Sizani; Baliwinile Kwankwa; KK Kekana; Kenny Bafo; Kgomotso > Matsebe; Khensani Teffu; King Lebea; Lucky Khoza; Malusi Kolie; > Phillip Kgosana; Tommy Kantando; wiseman mashego; > kwamendeb...@webmail.co.za; kutie.thondl...@doves.co.za; > kub...@telkomsa.net; APLAMVA LIMPOMPO; Gerald Lerobane; L Lekgwathi; > Leaga Lesufi; Lehlohonolo Shale; Lesomepedi Boshego; Letlapa > Mphahlele; Lethola Mofokeng; Lucky Moeketsi; Lumkile August; > luyand...@gmail.com; Simon Moeketsi; Sello Letjala; > znd...@hotmail.com; Puseletso Zwane; Zamikhaya Gxabe; Zandi Radebe; > Zola Mbi; Zukisa Mxesibe; Zuko Camagu; Zuko Hlulani; Sbusiso Xaba; > Tembelani Xundu; Xola Mketi; Xola Tyamzashe; Xolani Mabanga; Xolani > Makwedini; Xolelwa Njamela; Mthuthuzeli Vena; Samuel Marole; Vusi > Mahlangu; Vuyiswa Cekwana; vumilemof...@yahoo.com; > payco@googlegroups.com; paccapeme...@webmail.co.za; PAYCO Azania; > jtrimblefam...@hotmail.com; jabumakha...@yahoo.com; Andiswa Mjali; > montja...@yahoo.com; mphah...@eskom.co.za; Justice Mvakali; Themba > Hlatshwayo; g...@bcawu.co.za; g...@nactu.org.za; apap...@webmail.co.za; > aplamvanatio...@gmail.com; Wandisile Mandlana; rakwe...@yahoo.com; > richardma...@yahoo.com; rmtl...@gmail.com; rmse...@gmail.com; > rateb...@webmail.co.za; Themba Hlatshwayo; telite...@gmail.com; > Thembeka Majali; tob...@yahoo.com; tyamza...@yahoo.com; > twa...@pac.org.za; takalaniligeg...@gmail.com; > yolisamazo...@gmail.com; ikeyisa...@gmail.com; Malesela Mogashwa; Ike > Mafole; Albert Mokoena; ad...@pac.org.za; Archie Kota; > a...@joburg.org.za; a...@a-aprp-gc.org; azaania...@gmail.com; > angwa...@webmail.co.za; samrad...@upd.co.za; > solomoncontrac...@gmail.com; samuel.zw...@ekurhuleni.gov.za; > sibusiso.x...@gmail.com; Sipho Linda; sndam...@pac-cape.org.za; > Fitzroy Ngcukana; dannymonar...@gmail.com; digashuma...@gmail.com; > drmotsokoph...@drmotsokopheko.com; frazer.sm...@webmail.co.za; Fihla > Brig Gen; Gantsu; hoteli...@iburst.co.za; headoff...@sacwu.org.za; > justice.mvak...@gmail.com; ju-...@webmail.co.za; PASMA Gauteng; > khoi.so...@gmail.com; leratolepha...@ymail.com; leaga.les...@up.ac.za; > Lulamile Ntonzima; Zwelethemba Twalo; ckoms...@yahoo.com; > crosby.njwab...@webmail.co.za; victor.serakal...@dcs.gov.za; > va...@webmail.co.za; Bra Mike Motsobane; baldwin.nd...@inl.co.za; > ntsiemohl...@gmail.com; nakaphala.ba...@gmail.com; > nancykob...@webmail.co.za; ndhlo...@pac.org.za; Malinge Plaatjie; > mafub...@hotmail.com; Mathapelo Dhlamini; mnyhon...@yahoo.com; > mpumele...@gmail.com; Manelisi Mampana; mphash...@webmail.co.za; > maiv...@pac.org.za; makgaledisamphahl...@yahoo.com; Mawethu Sidzamba; > nrkgag...@gmail.com; nkrumah.kgag...@ananzi.co.za > Subject: Notice of PAC NEC meeting, invitation extended to PAC > Structures > > Good Aftrnoon, > > Kindly find attached correspondence and should you need additional > information, please feel free to contact us. > > Regard, > > Vakele Mkandawire > (PAC Chief Administrator) > Mobile Number: 071 1030 787 > -- -- Sending your posting to payco@googlegroups.com Unsubscribe by sending an email to payco-unsubscr...@googlegroups.com You can also visit http://groups.google.com/group/payco Visit our website at www.mayihlome.wordpress.com --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Pan Africanist Youth Congress" group. 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