Hi Kevin. Thanks for that. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: Re: which is better format
> Hi Gary. > > If you're playing an audio CD versus MP3 files on a PC, depending on your > sound card and speakers, it's very conceivable that you won't notice much > difference if any at all. Also, if you were to play an audio CD on a fairly > low-fi portable CD player and compare MP3 files played by the same player > you may not notice any difference at all. > > However, if you were to play them through a hi-fi you would probably start > to hear that the MP3 files yield less low frequency and high frequencies > would be limited too. > > As I said before, it's pretty much horses for courses and there's no right > or wrong. You just find the best medium for what you want to achieve. > > With regards to your CD having 140 MP3 files, it's all relevant to the > length of the tracks and the bit rates used. A bit rate of 128kbps usually > equates to 1mb per minute of music. If the average length of your tracks is > 5 minutes then in total you have 5 times 140 which equals 700 minutes of > music. This would also be 700mb of disc space. Dividing this by 60 to give > the total number of hours of music gives 11.6 hours. > > Obviously, your tracks are going to vary so this affects the number of > tracks on the CD. If the average length of your tracks was 3 minutes rather > than 5 minutes, then you'd get closer to that 200 number. > > Regards. > > Kevin > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:23 PM > Subject: Re: which is better format > > > > Hi Kevin. As stated before, I'm trying to learn how to burn CD's. My > > brother copied ten MP3 CD's for me that he got from a friend. In > comparison > > with some songs that I have on music CD's, I didn't find much difference > > between how those songs on the music CD's sounded with those same songs > that > > were on the MP3 CD's I have now. When I copied my music to the harddrive > > with CDex, I did have the bit rate at 128 k. From what I heard, I also > > didn't seem to frind much difference in sound quality from the original > > recordings. If I were to make copies of music CD's, I wouldn't see much > > point to that, since I already have the originals. The advantage of > > converting songs to MP3 CD's for me would be that I could save a lot of > > shelf space, or else have even more room for MP3 CD's. I counted the > songs > > in one of those MP3 CD's I have. You're supposed to be able to fit 200 > > tracks on one of those, but I only counted 140 songs. Most of those were > > MP3s, but some were WMA files. If you can conceivably put ten hours of > > music on an MP3 CD, at what bit rate would that be at? I set my CDex to > rip > > at 128 K, as I said before. But I also use variable bit rate (VBR). I > had > > that set to 9. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, June 12, 2004 6:59 AM > > Subject: Re: which is better format > > > > > > > Hi Gary. > > > > > > You've probably seen Bruce's note on music sound quality and I'd agree > > with > > > him 100%. Any music compressed to MP3 will suffer some degradation in > > sound > > > quality. > > > > > > However, WAV files don't support MP3 tag id's and are a little unwieldy > > for > > > today's portable players so if you want to take a lot of music with you > or > > > you just want a large collection of music on your hard drive with tags > > then > > > MP3, encoded at a high bit rate, is probably not a bad compromise. > > > > > > I've read a lot of statistical analysis on frequency range and sound > > quality > > > testing with various MP3 encoders and the Lame encoder is very highly > > rated > > > in this field. > > > > > > 128kbps is generally regarded as alittle too low for good music quality > > but > > > is obviously great because the file size is about as low as you would > > really > > > want to go. I've always been surprised that the companies selling music > > > downloads sell music at this bit rate to be honest. > > > > > > With regards to frequency range alone, I've seen many analysis reports > > that > > > measure 256kbps as just about meeting the CD frequency range and so > > 320kbps > > > is probably not going to yield much more in that respect but if you've > got > > > the disc space, why not. > > > > > > Even ripping a CD to WAV files will incur some degradation in quality > but > > as > > > Bruce pointed out, it's all about how high fidelity your player is and > how > > > good your hearing is that needs to be considered. > > > > > > Kevin > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Gary Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 11:30 PM > > > Subject: Re: which is better format > > > > > > > > > > Hi Kevin. I have my CDex set to 128 K. I thought that was supposed > to > > be > > > > CD quality. Maybe I'm not sure, but when I went into Soundforge, it > > > classed > > > > 128 K as CD quality. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 4:14 PM > > > > Subject: Re: which is better format > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Ron. > > > > > > > > > > This is a pretty loaded question as there are many factors and > > > preferences > > > > > to be taken into account. > > > > > > > > > > Personally, I rip using the Lame MP3 encoder at 320kbps. This gives > > me > > > as > > > > > close to CD quality as possible and I have plenty of hard disc so > > don't > > > > have > > > > > to worry about file sizes. > > > > > > > > > > I do have a portable player so if I need to load more music than > it's > > > > modest > > > > > 10GB hard disc will take, I use CDEX to re-encode down to a level > that > > > I'm > > > > > happy with, for example 192kbps. > > > > > > > > > > As I always keep the 320kbps masters which I've cleaned up and set > > > volumes > > > > > to be the same, there's no great loss in quality in re-encoding down > > to > > > a > > > > > lower bit rate to my portable player when required. > > > > > > > > > > Kevin > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Ronald Glaser" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 08, 2004 7:17 PM > > > > > Subject: which is better format > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is the better format between > > > > > windows media 9 loss less aug and mp3 or mp4 > > > > > Ron > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > > > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > > > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > > http://www.pc-audio.org > > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > _______________________________________________ > PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] _______________________________________________ PC-Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
