Hi Jamey.  I certainly enjoy the progress that blind people have made, as a 
result of using computers.  I do appreciate the Jaws scripts that I have 
used!  I'd say, Thank God for Windows, because of its development, we have 
had a lot of good things come our way, as a result!
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 5:12 PM
Subject: The Good Old Days (Was Mp3 players)


> TJ, I apologize if my comments annoyed you. I began using a computer in 
> 1990
> with a screen reader called ISOS, DOS 5.0, and Word Perfect 5.1 with 30
> minutes of training on how to use a computer. Thank God for "Mastering 
> Word
> Perfect" available from what was then just plain old RFB on cassette, and 
> a
> Braille book on DOS 5.0 from NLS. I can remember many nights going to bed 
> a
> 2 in the morning wondering of the $2500 I'd spent on a computer was a 
> total
> waste. I have absolutely no trouble today using Audible, iTunes, my iPod,
> web-based e-mail when necessary, and Money Talks to balance my checkbook.
> The blind community has come a long way in 15 years. If some scripts can
> tell me that the Winamp equalizer is open, that I am listening to track 3 
> of
> a CD, that the title is "Mary Had A Little Lamb" and that there is 1 
> minute
> 40 seconds remaining in the track, I'll take that and be grateful. If I 
> have
> to do a bit more work to  make a program work, I'm quite willing to do 
> that.
> I don't work for Freedom Scientific or anyone else who develops a screen
> reader, but those guys and gals work their tails off. I think we should be
> glad for what we have while striving to acquire even more. I'm sure this
> thread will get quite a bit longer from here and I eagerly look forward to
> the ride.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of TJ Olsen
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 3:50 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: Mp3 players
>
> to many blind people become overly dependant on this sort of thing. I hate
> to harp but i remember copying and pasting webpages in notepad to read 
> them
> (see jaws 2.0). So making coments like that just make me very anoyed.
> The softwear since its earliest days, same as the old msn were writen very
> easily to use. I object to the bloating of jaws i've seen in more recent
> years, like the  sounds manager, scripts for things that don't need tehm. 
> I
> hope that noone here will be willing to support eht google cripts?
>
> tj
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 4:41 PM
> Subject: RE: Mp3 players
>
>
>> But they are so nice! Lots of neat feedback.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> On Behalf Of TJ Olsen
>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 3:34 PM
>> To: PC audio discussion list.
>> Subject: Re: Mp3 players
>>
>> winamp absolutely doesn't need scripts. IIt works amazingly with out them
>> really
>>
>> ya you can't bet it really
>> tj
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jamie Pauls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "'PC audio discussion list. '" <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 11:42 AM
>> Subject: RE: Mp3 players
>>
>>
>>> With Jaws, you really can't beat Winamp even though it is a bit
>>> nonstandard
>>> in its keyboard commands. The scripts for that program, which come
>>> automatically installed with Jaws, show what really good scripting can 
>>> do
>>> for a program.
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> On Behalf Of Jed Barton
>>> Sent: Monday, November 14, 2005 10:36 AM
>>> To: [email protected]
>>> Subject: Mp3 players
>>>
>>> Alright guys, haven't been watching the stuff on the list.
>>> What's a good, easy to run mp3 player?
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
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