really? tell me, friend, is it free to burn mp3 cds? no. And, no again, you 
can't make mp3 conversions in what I'm talking about. Real player saves its 
library in some unknown directory to start with, and it saves from a cd in 
.rm or some such format. I don't see an mp3 conversion hear, anyway. Unless 
you pay for it, probably.


Tyler
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Grady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 7:31 AM
Subject: RE: ripping CD's with windows media player


> Now, why would you say something like that.  Of course Replayer allows 
> .mp3
> conversions.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of Tyler Wood
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:43 PM
> To: PC audio discussion list.
> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
> I think its stupid that real player doesn't allow .mp3 conversion, but 
> that
> is about the only setback I can see, although you have to pay for some
> things which is even more of a drag. I stil like winamp, though, but I use
> meedia player for leasure music listening since its real easy to make
> playlists in.
>
> Tyler
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 2:20 PM
> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>
>
>> Hi Tyler.
>>
>> There's plenty of references to using OGG plug-ins in media player - just
>> google it.  As for the real format, well that's just too proprietary and
>> will never be supported widely by portable devices and is a pain to
>> convert
>> so that's a non starter for me even if it is the best player in the 
>> world.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> Kevin
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tyler Wood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 7:45 PM
>> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>
>>
>>> ahem...
>>>
>>> I'd have to say that real player would win against playing all filetypes
>>> even though it may be hard to get used to. Its easy to make a playlist,
>> and
>>> at least in my experience its a good all-around player. You can rip 
>>> music
>>> from real player, too. It it doesn't get much simpler: put a cd into the
>>> tray and have it rip to your library automaticly. Only problem is that
>>> its
>>> real format which is a drag. Not to argue or anything but I haven't seen
>>> a
>>> big difference in winamp and windows meedia player, though. Winamp plays
>>> .ogg. Is that the only player that does? Or is there a pluggin for wmp?
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> Tyler
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Kevin Lloyd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 12:56 PM
>>> Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>>
>>>
>>> > Hi Brandon.
>>> >
>>> > Don't completely disagree with your points below - very valid.
>>> > However,
>> I
>>> > don't think it gets much easier to rip a CD than placing a CD in the
>>> > drawer
>>> > and having it automatically ejected less than 2 minutes later having
>> been
>>> > ripped to the format of your choice which once set as your default 
>>> > will
>>> > stick.  You're free to do as much or as little with your computer 
>>> > while
>>> > media player is ripping too.  I personally ripped with CDEX for years
>> but
>>> > was converted over to media player due to CDEX's lack of support for
>>> > modern
>>> > formats and, in particular, the format I use most often, lossless WMA.
>> I
>>> > haven't regretted it.  Also bear in mind that the free version of CDEX
>> is
>>> > ancient now and the current version is not free unlike media player 
>>> > 10.
>>> >
>>> > As far as playback goes, try playing a concept album where the tracks
>> run
>>> > into each other or a live album in both winamp and media player 10.
>>> > You'll
>>> > see that media player wins hands down in providing a seemless 
>>> > listening
>>> > experience.  As for quality, it's very subjective but I do think that
>>> > media
>>> > player does a better job with WMA than winamp.  I suppose that's not a
>>> > surprise given it's a  microsoft player playing a microsoft format?
>>> >
>>> > Regards.
>>> >
>>> > Kevin
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>>> > ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> > From: "Brandon Hicks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>>> > Sent: Sunday, June 04, 2006 3:14 PM
>>> > Subject: Re: ripping CD's with windows media player
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> hi,
>>> >> here's my thoughts on the subject.
>>> >>
>>> >> windows media player isn't nearly the best choice for cd ripping. you
>> can
>>> > go
>>> >> out and download a free program such as CDEX which is much easier to
>> use,
>>> > is
>>> >> focused on ripping and allows you to convert into mp3 much easier 
>>> >> than
>>> >> windows media, as well as having more ripping modes if those cd's are
>>> >> scratched. to get it, or even just check it out, go to
>>> >> http://www.whitestick.co.uk/download.html
>>> >> if you don't like it, you can remove it, but i personally use it for
>>> > ripping
>>> >> as well as converting between different formats.
>>> >>
>>> >> as for playing music, I know a lot of blind people use winamp. it's
>>> > totally
>>> >> scripted, and doesn't have a bunch of garbage that you don't need.
>>> >> it's
>>> > all
>>> >> keyboard controled and easy. it rips cd's as well, and is also a good
>>> > method
>>> >> despite being a bit slower. on my pc, it still ripped a cd in 10
>> minutes
>>> >> with little processor eating up, so i could do other stuff while
>> ripping.
>>> >> winamp allows you to burn cd's as well, and in my opinion is easier 
>>> >> to
>>> >> use
>>> >> than media player, besides having more internet broadcasting stations
>>> >> available that media player doesn't have.
>>> >>
>>> >> the only disadvantage to winamp, and this can be gotten around, is it
>>> >> doesn't play dvd movies. there are plugins that allow you to do this,
>>> >> though.
>>> >> winamp can be gotten from
>>> >> http://www.winamp.com
>>> >> that's about it from me.
>>> >> Brandon Hicks
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>>> >> Skype: callto://reyuth
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