Chris, You hit the nail on the head! We are not talking conventional broadcasting here, we are only talking about the internet where the bandwidth is narrow to begin with Whether you use a thousand dollar mike or a fifty dollar mike the end results are going to be the same when you take the available bandwidth into consideration. In order to compensate for the difference in bandwidth some broadcasters will go as far as to ad audio processing to the mix. They will enhance the audio by putting emphasis on certain frequencies giving the impression that one is listening to good audio. With audio processing It is very easy to trick the human ear into thinking that what you are listening too is top notch quality, when in reality we are only masking it. The other day there was a debate about cassette tape verses CD. We have to keep in mind that the faster the tape travels across the heads the better the audio quality. Back in the days of reel to reel tape recorders we had several tape speeds to choose from, 1 and 7 eights, 3 and 3 quarters, 7 and one half, 15, and 30 The laddered two speeds where mainly used by broadcasters. Personally I find the phonograph record to be the best, as there is a fullness and warmth to the sound provided that you don't have a record with a lot of pops on it. The price of mixers and microphones have come down considerably over the years. I can get a good microphone for around 50 dollars and a Barrenger mixer with all of the bells and whistles for about the same. Many broadcasters are now using off the shelf equipment for daily use, as the quality is as good as some of the mid priced commercial stuff. For an example if an off the shelf CD player packs it in you simply throw it away and get a new one, as the labour of repairing it would simply be too expensive In conclusion if one is setting up an internet radio station there is no need to go into deep debt in order to achieve a good sound. One should be able to set up an internet station for well under 500 dollars. Provided that you have a computer your major cost will be the software, and that too is dropping in cost. Hope this helps. . . . . ginal Message ----- From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:44 AM Subject: Re: Clarifying M issue with the 58, was Re: mic
> My point exactly, Bob. Cory is probably interested in internet > broadcasting, if I'm wrong correct me on that one, and even a 50 > dollar headset mic will serve your needs just fine for that, if used > properly and if your setup allows for such a thing. Everyone's setup > is different and yes, different mics are used for different applications. > So it may be the right mic for you, but maybe not. > > > > At 12:07 AM 1/16/2007, you wrote: >>The question that should be answered is what kind of application wil you b >>using this microphone for? Microphones are wide and varied , and depending >>on the application can be expensive or in expensive. There are microphones >>that are specifically designed for live performances, and there are those >>types of microphones that are designed specifically for studios. Now that >>we >>have computers in most broadcast facilities todays microphones have to be >>shielded and properly grounded in order to avoid that anoying 60 herts >>hum. >> ----- Original Message ----- >>From: "Judy W" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]> >>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:00 PM >>Subject: RE: Clarifying M issue with the 58, was Re: mic >> >> >> > >> > He's not an audio snob. I think he's right. You have to ask what is the >> > mic >> > going to be used for. All of the radio stations I have been in use very >> > expensive condenser mics. You can get a cheaper akg mic if it's for >> > broadcasting. You will get a wormer more professional sound. This info >> > comes >> > from the engineer at our local public radio station. Unfortunately, I >> > can't >> > afford one for my show at this time. >> > >> > On the other hand, I know several folk musicians who will use nothing >> > but >> > the sure mic. You can't just say that a mic is good or bad. You need to >> > evaluate what you want to use it for and then you need to look at your >> > budget... >> > >> > Just my opinion, >> > >> > Judy >> > >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Nick G >> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 7:19 PM >> > To: PC audio discussion list. >> > Subject: Clarifying M issue with the 58, was Re: mic >> > >> > >> > By saying that it was over rated, i am not saying that something is >> > quote >> > unquote "wrong" audio-wise with the 58. What i am saying is wrong with >> > the >> > 58 is its high price tag, which isn't justified. Furthermore, and this >> > is >> > what pisses me off, is that, and i can back this up with many people, >> > people >> > seem to have a complex when they have their 58's in a studio setting. >> > They >> > think that htis is a shure mic, and because of the marketing hype >> > involved >> > with said shure mic, they feel they have the best of the best. The >> > Quote >> > unquote "legendary" Shure SM58. >> > >> > the manufacturer's suggested retail price for a 58 is well over $99, >> > possibly $199. the manufacturer's suggested retail price for an Audio >> > Technica Atr30 seems to have dipped from $79 down to $39, which is what >> > I've >> > seen it going for for years. And the specifications are just as good, >> > and >> > the sound is up there to proove it. >> > >> > At the price of a 58, or possibly less, and I am perfectly qualified to >> > say >> > this because I've done it, you can get one hell of a condenser >> > microphone. >> > Look at anything made by cad and you'll see of what I speak. But, >> > again, >> > the Shure SM58 is marketed as a classic. It is. It's a throwback to >> > the >> > days when there was no better value, without the price decrease that >> > would >> > befit a mic like the 58 based on how it sounds. Now there is better >> > value >> > in the mic world. Do your research before settling on market-hype, >> > because >> > market-hype will kill you. It has done that to me. >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Chris Skarstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]> >> > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:00 PM >> > Subject: Re: mic >> > >> > >> >> over-rated????? >> >> Absolutely nothing wrong with the Sure sm58. >> >> Man what an audio ssnob... >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> At 03:49 PM 1/15/2007, you wrote: >> >>>Though let me tell ya, going from an MXL condenser mic like you had to >> >>>an >> >>>over-rated 58...Damn Sarah... >> >>>----- Original Message ----- >> >>>From: "Sarah" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >>>To: "PC audio discussion list. " <[email protected]> >> >>>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:14 PM >> >>>Subject: Re: mic >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> > Hello. I am usng a shure sm58 for mine. YOu will need an xlr cable >> >>> > for >> >>> > that >> >>> > though. >> >>> > >> >>> >> I am looking for a good mic to use for internet radio >> >>> >> broadcasting. >> >>> >> Any ideas? >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Corey Cook >> >>> >> EMail: >> >>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> >> AIM: goldadore922 >> >>> >> BLOG: http://www.xanga.com/ciu_nice_guy >> >>> >> >> >>> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> >>> >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>> >> >> >>> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> >>> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> >>> > http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>> > >> >>> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> >>> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >>> > >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> >>>http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>> >> >>>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> >>>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> > >> > >> > >> > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> > http://www.pc-audio.org >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > >> > >> > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> > http://www.pc-audio.org >> > >> > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> >> >> >> >>Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>http://www.pc-audio.org >> >>To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
