High Dane, 20 years ago, the screen reader for the MACKS were built in to the sound cards. But back then, they were called echo speech synthesizers. It was a good while back I thank in April or May of this year, someone on this list said that tiger was a screen reader for the MACKS. OXX systems I've heard of, but I've never heard of that one,so please forgive me. I only said I'd like to see them in action because I wonder how much has changed in MACKS cense the last 20 years. How are those sound cards sat up these days? And thanks for the corrections. John. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 1:10 AM Subject: RE: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC
> Ok, just to correct you on a couple of points here. Tiger was an operating > system for the Mac (like say Windows for the PC) but it has now become > superseeded. > The Mac Screen Reader is indeed VoiceOver but it is not built-in to the > Sound Card rather its part of the Mac Operating System, it has been sine > 2005. > Hope this helps. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of DJ DOCTOR P > Sent: Wednesday, 21 November 2007 4:56 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC > > Hello Tyler, > There is a screen reader for the Mack systems. > It's called Tiger, and it's built in to the sound card. > I haven't played with a Mack in more then 20 years, but I here that it's > more assessable then Windows. > I don't know this for sure, like you I would like to see it in action too. > John. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Timberwolf" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> > Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:43 PM > Subject: Re: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC > > >> Ok. >> >> Lets make a few things clear. >> >> >> 1. What in the world is your problem with windows. If you don't like it, >> don't use it, not to mention don't call it a trashbox, you don't see me >> sittin here calling your mack a trashbox. I haven't used a mack because I >> don't know if there are any screenreaders available and certainly I >> haven't >> heard of any. >> >> 2. Secondly because, imho anyway, apple's products are a bit overpriced >> and >> not to mention I wish other companies would support mack (if mack is so >> great, etc). I've got an acer aspire 3000+ here, hp pavillion dv5220, and >> just recently got an alienware, 2.3 ghz intel duel core processor, 2 gb >> ram, >> top of the line etc. >> >> Now, the reason I'm saying this is because some people, like you, prefer >> mack. That's perfectly fine. Some people such as myself like windows and >> are >> used to it, therefore use it. Now, I'm not saying anything bad about a >> mack- >> so why're you jabbing fingers at windows? for that matter, if mack does >> everything you say it does, why are you using windows in the first place >> if >> you don't like it? >> >> >> I hope I don't look like I'm flaming you but, that's just my oppinion, >> and >> also I kind of feel insulted when people call windows a trashbox, while >> not >> giving supporting evidence of such. While microsoft may have its >> drawbacks, >> I see nothing wrong with vista, just some things to get used to, and >> besides, people are complaining about it all the time, but I personally >> don't mind it. Now I know this is a pc audio list and will add that it >> could >> be your computer that's causing the crash. winamps never crashed on my >> system, although I once loaded a .ogg file which free download manager >> was >> downloading and it lagged my pc baaaaad! (of course, this was on the acer >> with like 1.6 ghz, 256 mb ram) so I upgraded the thing with another 512 >> mb. >> So hey, Dane, if you don't mind e-mailing me off list, I'd like to see a >> mack in action and get the specs on the thing. Also would like to know if >> any screenreaders are available and how good they work. >> >> >> >> - Tyler >> visit my website! >> http://www.valiant.789mb.com >> >> note: Make sure you have your speakers turned on to get a cool-sounding >> intro! >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Dane Trethowan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 9:45 AM >> Subject: Winamp, my thoughts and VLC >> >> >>> Ok folks, I tried out the latest (and greatest?) version of Winamp and I >>> had >>> a few problems running it on the trashbox (otherwise known as the >>> Windows >>> PC) <smile> For some reason (I don't know why) Winamp it seems, was >>> responsible for the Trashbox crashing every few minutes. >>> >>> Naturally this behavior to anyone (particularly to a Mac user where >>> crashes >>> are few and far between) <lol> is totally unacceptable so back onto the >>> machine went VLC media Player, it was listening to both that I make the >>> following observations. >>> >>> Firstly, VLC does a far better job ad decoding media such as MP3 etc, >>> you >>> can hear the differences quite distinctly. >>> >>> Controls are similar to those presented in Winamp and in a lot of ways, >>> VLC >>> is easier to use with a screen reader, not as cluttered as Winamp seems >>> to >>> be. >>> >>> I've been using VLC on the Mac for ages but haven't had too much >>> experience >>> with it on the PC, the command set is slightly different but that's >>> probably >>> due mainly to differences in the keyboard layout between Mac and >>> Trashbox >>> Windows PC. For example, you go to previous and next tracks in VLC under >>> the >>> Mac using command-left and command-right arrow respectively, on the PC >>> version you use P and N on the keyboard >>> >>> If anyone would like to give this excellent little media player a try >>> then >>> use your friend Google and look for "vlc", you'll have no trouble >>> finding >>> it. Takes up a lot less space than Winamp does plus it will play just >>> about >>> everything you can throw at it, including Cue and Wave/FLAC pairs. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >>> http://www.pc-audio.org >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> >>> >>> -- >>> No virus found in this incoming message. >>> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: >>> 20/11/2007 5:44 PM >>> >>> >> >> >> >> Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... >> http://www.pc-audio.org >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: >> 11/20/2007 11:34 AM >> >> > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... > http://www.pc-audio.org > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: > 11/20/2007 11:34 AM > > Audio List Help, Guidelines, Archives and more... http://www.pc-audio.org To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
