Yah, I understand at least one of the reasons Nfb stopped descriptive video here is that they objected to the fact that the little weather ticker at the bottom of the screen was not read. While this would be something to work for, I allways thought it was rather, pardon me, stupid to stop all descriptive video, especially if when you hear the beeps indicating bad wetehr you can allways turn on a weather radio or log on to your favorite weather website or turn on a am or fm radio!

Steve
----- Original Message ----- From: "Rick Harmon" <rickhar...@sbcglobal.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:48 PM
Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads


Mac,

If you are referring to the NFB statement he's correct.  The NFB did
everything within their ability to destroy DVS in the united states and
succeeded in their task almost completely..

Rick


----- Original Message ----- From: "Mac Norins" <macata...@cox.net>
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Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads


Cane,

I think your point is well taken, while Dave's is just a bit of unnecessary
sarcasm!

Mac Norins
----- Original Message ----- From: "Kane Brolin" <kbroli...@gmail.com>
To: <j...@freelists.org>
Cc: "Blind iPod Mailing List" <blindi...@freelists.org>;
<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:41 PM
Subject: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads


Hi, folks.

I'm probably about to ask a question that's painfully obvious to many.
But I'm showing up at the descriptive video/SAP party much later than
some.  I'm writing to the JAWS list because I am a JAWS user.  I'm
writing to the Blind iPod list because purchasing video content on
iTunes is now accessible through use of the J-tunes interface.  So I
hope others view this question as at least somewhat relevant.

I'm presuming, first of all,  that most Hollywood feature films on DVD
come with a descriptive video track encoded somewhere on them.  I'm
presuming the same could be true with downloadable films and TV shows,
too, as from iTunes.  Certainly, most DVDs representing TV programs
where action was described in the first place, should have that same
DVS output on the subsequent DVD release.  If this is true, I'm
wondering about the following:

1.  How can I be sure, if a film or TV show is downloaded, to get the
download version that has descriptive video encoded?  Is there a good
source for such material?  Is there a way I can know for sure about
this feature before I buy?

2.  When playing such downloaded or DVD content on the computer, is
there a software player that is fairly accessible and which also has a
menu option I can invok for activating or turning off the
descriptions?  I've not seen this in RealPlayer or Windows Media
Player, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.

3.  Am I being completely naive here?  Obviously, I know a lot of
stuff isn't accessible on its face, and I realize legislation in front
of Congress is attempting to make much of this universal.  I've heard
of some people going to a place like the Serotek network to download
versions of films that have been uploaded specifically for those
wanting video description.  But is this truly necessary?  Or can the
same content be obtained through regular channels with just a little
bit of work on the part of the blind consumer?

Just trying to get a handle on this issue, for my own benefit and for
others I may encounter.

Kind regards,

-Kane

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