Actually, Dave happened to be telling the truth.  There used to be DVS on 
Dishnet for some channels.  Now, after that dustup, the only channel on which I 
find regular DVS is TCM.  CBS doesn't have it and neither does PBS.  These may 
be on other systems, ComCast, Directtv, I don't know, but not on Dishnet.  When 
I've called them they reference legal issues of some sort.

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mac Norins 
  To: PC Audio Discussion List 
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 6:26 PM
  Subject: Re: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads


  Cane, 

  I think your point is well taken, while Dave's is just a bit of unnecessary 
sarcasm!  

  Mac Norins
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Kane Brolin" <kbroli...@gmail.com>
  To: <j...@freelists.org>
  Cc: "Blind iPod Mailing List" <blindi...@freelists.org>; 
<pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
  Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:41 PM
  Subject: Descriptive Video on Commercial DVDs and Downloads


  Hi, folks.

  I'm probably about to ask a question that's painfully obvious to many.
   But I'm showing up at the descriptive video/SAP party much later than
  some.  I'm writing to the JAWS list because I am a JAWS user.  I'm
  writing to the Blind iPod list because purchasing video content on
  iTunes is now accessible through use of the J-tunes interface.  So I
  hope others view this question as at least somewhat relevant.

  I'm presuming, first of all,  that most Hollywood feature films on DVD
  come with a descriptive video track encoded somewhere on them.  I'm
  presuming the same could be true with downloadable films and TV shows,
  too, as from iTunes.  Certainly, most DVDs representing TV programs
  where action was described in the first place, should have that same
  DVS output on the subsequent DVD release.  If this is true, I'm
  wondering about the following:

  1.  How can I be sure, if a film or TV show is downloaded, to get the
  download version that has descriptive video encoded?  Is there a good
  source for such material?  Is there a way I can know for sure about
  this feature before I buy?

  2.  When playing such downloaded or DVD content on the computer, is
  there a software player that is fairly accessible and which also has a
  menu option I can invok for activating or turning off the
  descriptions?  I've not seen this in RealPlayer or Windows Media
  Player, but maybe I'm just not looking in the right place.

  3.  Am I being completely naive here?  Obviously, I know a lot of
  stuff isn't accessible on its face, and I realize legislation in front
  of Congress is attempting to make much of this universal.  I've heard
  of some people going to a place like the Serotek network to download
  versions of films that have been uploaded specifically for those
  wanting video description.  But is this truly necessary?  Or can the
  same content be obtained through regular channels with just a little
  bit of work on the part of the blind consumer?

  Just trying to get a handle on this issue, for my own benefit and for
  others I may encounter.

  Kind regards,

  -Kane

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