with no buttons how do you manage?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Constantine" <[email protected]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 6:20 PM
Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod


Hi,

I have an IPhone, an IPod touch is the same thing just with no phone.

I absolutely love the thing. Its worth the bit of extra money.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Lauren" <[email protected]>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, October 15, 2009 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod


> Have you tried the Ipod Touch? Is it completely accessible and worth the
> cost?
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Lauren
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]>
> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:08 AM
> Subject: Re: zenstone versus the ipod
>
>
>> I'm not familiar with the newer models of the Zen Stone. The last one I
>> got was a 4G Zen Stone with External Speaker. Ray's right. It just shows
>> up as an external storage device, on your PC so you only need Windows
>> Explorer to copy music over to it. You don't need an application like
>> itunes.
>>
>> Unless the newer Xen Stones have gotten a big larger, more sophisticated
>> and more expensive, they compare mor to the iPod Shuffle than the iPod
>> Nano. Also, the newest iPod Shuffle and iPod Nano don't use Voice Over,
>> like the iPhones and iPod Touch does. Instead, you can use iTunes to copy
>> over voice clips to the Shuffle or the Nano to have the menus, files and
>> folders spoken to you. this is similar to the way Rockbox works.
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Christopher
>> [email protected]
>>
>>
>>
>> Dane trethowan wrote:
>>> Thanks for posting this, I had recommended the Zenstone in the past but
>>> I was told that the newer models aren't accessible? I'm not sure if this
>>> is true or not as I haven't seen one in a while but - supposing it is -
>>> then an Ipod Nano - particularly one of the newer models with Voiceover
>>> built-in - would be worth considering.
>>>
>>> An Ipod touch maybe but they're getting rather expensive whereas a Nano
>>> is more in the price range of a Zenstone.
>>>
>>> You also get many of the features I recall being on the Zenstone player
>>> such as FM radio, Memo voice recording and son on, all fully accessible.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 14/10/2009, at 11:10 PM, Ray wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lauren, the Zenstone, if it's still around, is far simpler than an Ipod
>>>> orItouch.  The Zenstone's sound quality is good and there's not much of
>>>> a
>>>> learning curv either.  You can simply copy files or folders
>>>> containgcontaining
>>>> .mp3 files to the Zenstone, whereas the Apple products I am pretty
>>>> certain,
>>>> require the use of ITunes.  that's a whole steep learning curv in
>>>> itself.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ray
>>>>
>>>> Lauren wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> i am in the market for a player that I can use to play and download
>>>> songs
>>>> from. I am wondering which is the most accessible for a totally blind
>>>> person,
>>>> has good memory, is easy to sue and cost? I heard the Ipod touch is
>>>> accessible, but wonder if anyone has actual experience with it?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>
>>>> Lauren
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