Okay well if you're talking Iphone then yep, it is completely different and there have been some pretty unhelpful and miss-leading comments made by those in the blind community who ought to know better in various articles and reviews which don't help the perception towards the product - once a jerk then always a jerk I spose but never mind, perhaps he's learnt his lesson and will study the facts before shooting off his mouth again -
Another common question I get asked about the Iphone is to describe the layout of the screen, touch screens change layout depending on what you're doing <smile>. so yep, an open mind is required as you're opening up a whole new world with an Iphone or any touch screen device for that matter. On 20/04/2010, at 3:43 AM, Gary Wood wrote: > I think that if I consider switching, that I will approach it with an open > mind, as well. I am impressed with the way IPhone interacts with Voiceover > on the phone that I tried. I'm wondering, because I've heard people say that > it's a completely different system to learn. I'm just considering, incase I > might decide to switch at some point. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, April 19, 2010 3:42 AM > Subject: Re: A little Mac talk and audio Was Audio Hijack Pro > > >> I didn't have any trouble switching from one to the other, I suppose this >> was because i took to the Mac with an Open mind, yep a new system but no! >> I'm not on my own. Plenty of great tools and resources to help you >> including the built-in reference material and interactive tutorials for >> Voiceover, the numpad and keyboard commander which are customisable etc. >> >> >> On 19/04/2010, at 5:04 PM, Gary Wood wrote: >> >>> Everything about Mac sounds good, especially with the Voiceover! But if I >>> go that way, I'll have to learn a new system all over again! Does Mac seem >>> easier or harder to learn than Windows? I know that it'll be different. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "hank smith" <[email protected]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Sunday, April 18, 2010 3:14 AM >>> Subject: Re: A little Mac talk and audio Was Audio Hijack Pro >>> >>> >>>> not only that but I have yet to find a mac screen reader radio automation >>>> software fore that platform >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 5:06 PM >>>> Subject: Re: A little Mac talk and audio Was Audio Hijack Pro >>>> >>>> >>>>> Flip For Mac is the replacement for Windows Media Play for the Mac, >>>>> Microsoft recommend it for all the most up-to-date WMA audio/video >>>>> features, its a third party product - in other words not developped by >>>>> Microsoft and is updated regularly. >>>>> >>>>> The player - which integrates with Quicktime - is available free, other >>>>> tools such as Video capturing etc you have to pay for but the prices are >>>>> fairly reasonable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 18/04/2010, at 10:03 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> High Dain, >>>>>> I done this in 2007. >>>>>> I think Microsoft still has it upon their website, but you'll have to do >>>>>> some digging in order to find it. >>>>>> You said something about Flip working well with Quick Time. >>>>>> What is Flip? >>>>>> John. >>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 4:31 PM >>>>>> Subject: A little Mac talk and audio Was Audio Hijack Pro >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well I don't know how you're going to go with Windows Media Player for >>>>>>> the Mac as - from what I understand - it was discontinued for the Mac >>>>>>> quite some time ago, you use Flip For Mac instead which integrates with >>>>>>> Quicktime. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 18/04/2010, at 4:49 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> High Hank, >>>>>>>> I only keep track of the music that we play at the radio station. >>>>>>>> If I hear something I like, I will either save it as a wave file and >>>>>>>> or a flack file and copy it to a flash drive just so that I can take >>>>>>>> it home with me. >>>>>>>> My computer in my office, has Quick Time on it, which is more easier >>>>>>>> to use on a Mack then it is to use on a pc. >>>>>>>> They don't know this, but I downloaded Windows Media Player for Macks >>>>>>>> and installed it on that computer. >>>>>>>> But if you're asking about the computer in the control room, that one >>>>>>>> is running the Linux system. >>>>>>>> But they're looking to switch that one out for a Mack system. >>>>>>>> The reason for this is, coming by a screen reader that will work with >>>>>>>> the Linux system, is very costly. >>>>>>>> So a system that already has a screen reader built in to it, is more >>>>>>>> cost efficient. >>>>>>>> I don't know what they will be running on it yet, but I'll keep the >>>>>>>> list posted when I find out. >>>>>>>> My best regards. >>>>>>>> John. >>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "hank smith" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 2:54 AM >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> what software you using at radio station? >>>>>>>>> I am in search fore radio station mac software fore my internet >>>>>>>>> station >>>>>>>>> Hank >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "DJ DOCTOR P" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 9:22 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> High Dain, >>>>>>>>>> Not here at the house. >>>>>>>>>> But I have a Mack in my office at work. >>>>>>>>>> I work for a loco radio station here in my home town. >>>>>>>>>> I hope to have a Mack of my very own by my 38th birthday which is, a >>>>>>>>>> few months away. >>>>>>>>>> John. >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 17, 2010 12:17 AM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Pardon my ignorance but do you have a Mac to try it on? This is Mac >>>>>>>>>>> software we're discussing here. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 17/04/2010, at 2:12 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> High Dain, >>>>>>>>>>>> Thinks for the clarification! >>>>>>>>>>>> When I get a chance, I'll try that. >>>>>>>>>>>> If I run in to any trouble, I'll let you and everyone on this list >>>>>>>>>>>> know. >>>>>>>>>>>> My best regards. >>>>>>>>>>>> John. >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 11:46 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Okay, I'll do my best to explain things here. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Given that Audio Hijack Pro handles many sources then how you >>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust the level depends very much on what you're >>>>>>>>>>>>> hijacking/recording from, with Audio Hijack Pro, "Hijack" and >>>>>>>>>>>>> "Record" are 2 different operations. In order to "Record" you >>>>>>>>>>>>> first need to "Hijack" a source, you may just want to "Hijack" a >>>>>>>>>>>>> source rather than record it, when a source is Hijacked, you can >>>>>>>>>>>>> redirect its audio for example. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some sources you can adjust the level by adjusting the volume >>>>>>>>>>>>> control of that source - say DVD Player -, others are "Fixed" >>>>>>>>>>>>> level sources but the point here is that Audio Hijack Pro is not >>>>>>>>>>>>> an editor, only a recorder so if further level adjustments or >>>>>>>>>>>>> tweaking is necessary then you "Edit" the recording which is >>>>>>>>>>>>> placed in Audio Hijack's "Recording Bin", various other >>>>>>>>>>>>> operations are available from there including the addition of >>>>>>>>>>>>> effects, burning to CD and so on. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope this goes some way to explaining things and other Mac >>>>>>>>>>>>> users may have additional notes to add. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/04/2010, at 12:43 PM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> High Dain, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I got that part, what I'm talking about, are their controls. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Voiceover doesn't work with those, how do you make >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjustments, and how do you know you're making the right >>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjustments? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> John. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 10:28 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I just explained how you used Voiceover with Audio Hijack Pro >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <smile>, re-read and perhaps you'll see what I'm talking about. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17/04/2010, at 11:26 AM, DJ DOCTOR P wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> High Dain, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you can't use Voice Over, then how does a person that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cannot see get at it? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is sighted help needed? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My wife knows nothing about Mack systems, and I'm still >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> learning. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> John. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2010 5:35 PM >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Audio Hijack Pro something I've just discovered >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Well I don't know who to give credit to for this but it seems >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that -f you're prepared to fiddle a bit - the Effects in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audio Hijack Pro are accessible. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, select the "Effects" tab and navigate to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scroll area, Interact with this. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Move the mouse to the scroll area with vo-command-f5 and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> click, a menu listing all the effects pops up, choose the one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you want and press the return key. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now to clear the effect? Go into the "Control" menu of Audio >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hijack pro and select "Clear Effects". >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, some problems still need to be addressed, you can't as >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> far as I can tell adjust the effect or have more than one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> effect active at the same time - well at least you can't use >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Voiceover to accomplish these tasks - but perhaps if we keep >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gnawing away - as we have ben - at the developers then we'll >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> continue to see improvements to what is an excellent product, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Audio Hijack Pro is one of those products on the Mac that I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> myself couldn't do without as it can be put to so many uses, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything from Recording Skype and Ichat sessions to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amplefying sound taken from the line-in of the Mac. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>>> [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [email protected] >> >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [email protected] To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [email protected]
