Hi, 
does this player also allow listening to streaming of radio on the net? 


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Christopher Chaltain 
  To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' 
  Sent: Monday, November 29, 2010 12:25 PM
  Subject: RE: Audiobooks, where to get them for free?


  Thanks for the information Steve. I did think it was funny that after the
  author said they wouldn't clutter up the list with a discussion on why
  Audible uses DRM they then went into some pretty silly analogies involving
  chairs, burgers, tables and so on.

  --
  Christopher
  [email protected]


  -----Original Message-----
  From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]
  On Behalf Of Steve Pattison
  Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2010 6:50 PM
  To: Access L; CUG Members; VIP-L
  Cc: PC Audio
  Subject: Fwd: Audiobooks, where to get them for free?

  From:    David [email protected]
  To:      WE English mailing list [email protected]

  The below mesage was found on the mailing list, of  the all accessible media

  player MaPlEr. Although it refers to certain features of MaPlEr, I guess 
  most of the info might be of interest to the users on this list as well, no 
  matter what player you are currently using.

  In case, you have not yet checked it out, give the newest version (v1.15) of

  MaPlEr a try. It has features, that you won't find in any other software, 
  and best of all, it is build by and for blind users, so you will never have 
  to worry accessibility conflicts. You will find it at:
   http://mar-dy.com/MaPlEr/MaPlEr.php

  Enjoy!

  ----- Original Message ----- 

  As you all might have noticed, MaPlEr is equipped with a number of 
  features, specially taylored for reading audiobooks. The 'bookmarking' 
  capability, just to mention one. Then we have stuff like the speed and 
  pitch adjustment. And, you might also have noticed a couple of choices 
  under the Special menu, and wondered, what they are for. I here have in 
  mind, the 'skip at beginning', and 'skip at the end' features. They were 
  specially designed, due to user request, and with reading audiobooks in 
  mind. Yet, Personally, I have found them particularly useful, when trying 
  to edit certain parts of music, of which, I'd rather be back with more 
  info, in a later email.

  Getting audiobooks in an electronic format, might not always be too easily 
  achieved. The only place on the net, that I know of, which offers a bigger 
  selection for sale, would be Audible. You might right away be familiar 
  with that site, and in such a case, you know that it is delivering its 
  contents in a specially COPYRIGHTED format - the Audible format (having 
  the .A extension to its files). Audible has quite strict copyright rules, 
  and even when comes to hardware players, only a VERY FEW players on the 
  market, do have the capablility to play Audible books. So, asking the 
  Mar-Dy team, to ever implement Audible playback in their software, would 
  be something close to 'in vain'. Although I don't want to clutter this 
  list with a long discussion on why, and why not, Audible does it this way, 
  I still want to point it out, so that users will know, why this will not 
  come true, until the day, Audible would change their scheme. And, after 
  all, how many people would ever buy any books, if they were only allowed 
  to read them in a particular branded chair. Or, how often would you be 
  eating burgers, if you only were allowed doing so, if you sit at a given 
  table, listening to one particular song, and eating within a predefined 
  time frame. Well, you see, there is not too much reasons for offering 
  Audible any more space, as an alternative in this mail.

  My heading, though, did state, where to get audiobooks. And, even for 
  FREE. I will point you to a few places, that offers such material, fully 
  legal. The selection on all of these sites are ever growing. Due to the 
  copyright rules, and the fact they are offering the material for free, it 
  tends to be older books. But, it is a nice way, of getting your hands on 
  the good old classics, and keep them all legally in yor library. And, with 
  MaPlEr, you can even build one playlist for each book, which in practical 
  life means, you can read as many books you want in parallel, and simply 
  always refind your last read spot, in each and everyone of them. Yet 
  another of those useful features, that the Mar-Dy team has been kind 
  enough to implement, and which is quite beneficial.

  The biggest - and fastest growing - place to find the free audiobooks, 
  would be at Librivox.org.
  Librivox, is getting their material from volunteers, all over the globe. 
  In other words, you will listen to a book, all read by a real human. Yet, 
  you will encounter all kinds of Flavored English. One small drawback, 
  would be that one and same book, might have its different parts - or 
  chapters - read by different persons. Well enough, you won't get tired, by 
  listening to the same voice for hours. Yet, just when you have got used to 
  the way of reading of one narrator, here the next chapter comes, and that 
  with another voice, and somehow different style. On the other hand, you 
  get your ears on material, that you might not have heard before - or at 
  least, not for many years - and all of that in a modern-day version and 
  recording. Be aware, that the different chapters might have been recorded 
  at different levels, which means you will have to  adjust the volume 
  slightly from one section to the other. Note: the new MEI (Mardy Extended 
  Information) feature, found under the File menu in V1.15, is specially 
  handy here. IF you have trouble in figuring how to use it, let us know, 
  and we will be glad to edducate you on that one.

  One big benefit of Librivox, is their offering the books in two ways. 
  Either you can browse their library, and download the books you want. They 
  all come as zip files, and usually ain't too big. With a good highspeed 
  connection, you will be able to download several books in a short time. 
  Yet, even with a dial-up connection, you won't be spending too much time, 
  in getting your hands on the goodies. The other alternative, is to 
  subscribe to their Podcast. All you then need to do, is to keep an eye on 
  your podcast folder, and enjoy the new stuff. Yet, this alternative, gives 
  you little control on what you will get, since you will get, what they 
  decide to publish through the podcast. Try, and find which alternative you 
  will like the best.


  The other place to go, for getting your hands on free audiobooks, would be 
  at
   http://www.gutenberg.org/wiki/Gutenberg:The_Audio_Books_Project
  This is a sub-department of the EBook website of Gutenberg.org, a nice 
  place, if you want to download the book in plain text. The audiobooks 
  found here, comes in two flavors:

  1. HUMAN READINGS. The books in this section, are - as the term says - 
  read by volunteer humans. Some of the same applies here, as with the 
  Librivox books. In fact, some of the books found here, are actual links 
  from the Librivox site.
  2. COMPUTER GENERATED AUDIOBOOKS. Again, the term might say it all. These 
  books have been run through a Text-To-Speech softwre (so-called TTS), and 
  recorded. For all screen reader users, you will have your feelings, when 
  finding that same Eloquence voice, that you know all too well from your 
  computer, sitting and reading good old books aloud for you. Yet, it is an 
  alternative, and might just be the right thing, in given cases. I have 
  tried it, and it is fully workable, to read a book by use of electronic 
  voice. Besides, some libraries for the blind, around the globe, do offer 
  certain material in electronic voiced versions; so you might already be 
  familiar with this flavor of narrator.
  All-in-all, this is one place to check for your favorites.


  The third alternative, that I want to point you to, would be the 
  AudiobooksForFree.com website. The biggest benefits of this site, is 
  actually numbering into no less than three:
  1. They offer you a FREE version of their books.
  2. You can decide to buy the book, and get it in a better sound quality.
  3. The whole book would be read by ONE, real person; all through.
  The free version of the book, is recorded at 8khz. For the ones of you, 
  who do not know what this means, it simply means a rather bad recording 
  quality. Hardly the way you want to read a thousand pages. Yet, if you 
  only want to read a short story, or if you want to know a bit more of the 
  story before buying the book, you might find this alternative simply 
  perfect. With the right adjustment on the new equalizer of MaPlEr, you 
  might even find it bearable for quite a while, to read these books; in the 
  free version.
  The moement you find, that this is a book you REALLY want, you can decide 
  to buy it. It will come as a downloadable, and you have the chance of 
  choosing which quality you want. The higher sound quality, the higher the 
  price. Yet, the most expensive one, which is CD quality, would only cost 
  you a few dollars for each book; no matter the length of the book. The 
  prices range from 5 to 8 dollars, for the whole book, depending on the 
  actual sound quality. But even if you decide to go for the most expensive 
  one; where else would you get a CD quality book, read in a professional 
  manner, by a real human, for as little as 8 US dollars? And, if you want 
  it pre-burned on a CD, and mailed to you, you get the choice to do so, for 
  only USD $15; still a fair enough price.
  One further feature of the AudiobooksForFree company, is that they offer 
  for you, to buy the complete selection, right away. For only USD $100, you 
  get ten DVD disks, shipped right in your mailbox, holding the whole 
  selection, all sorted.You will have something like 30GB or more, of 
  audiobooks; litterally holding a library of hundreds of books.
  The readers of AudiobooksForFree, are GOOD readers. You will find the same 
  quality in reading, as you are familiar with, from your Library for the 
  blind, locally. In given cases, I would say, the reader is even doing a 
  WONDERFUL job, giving the text its full attributes. Although you might end 
  up spending a few dollars on the project, I do claim this alternative the 
  very best, if you are really looking for building your audiobook 
  collection.


  Of course, you would have other choices, to get your hands on good 
  audiobooks. Itunes, do offer a sellection, and it still is fair enough 
  pricing; although you would have to look a bit deeper into your wallet, 
  than what is the case with the books from the sites mentioned above. And, 
  you could always browse EBay, find books on CDs, and rip them into a set 
  of MP3 files, that you can play with MaPlEr.

  Lastly, I want to point you to the nextup.com website. Although NextUp 
  does not provide audiobooks, they provide the software TextAloud. This is 
  a TTS (Text-To-Speech). This means, you can load a textfile - or a set of 
  textfiles, into the editor of the software. You then choose the voice from 
  the selection installed on your computer, and can have the whole text 
  recordeed with that voice, in one big, or several smaller MP3 files; all 
  saved onto your hard disk, or hardware mp3 player. And, WOOPSY! you have 
  your own produced audiobook. NextUp, is well aware of screen reader users, 
  and their software is all accessible. It is shareware, giving you the 
  chance of testing it for free for 15 days, fully functional. If you decide 
  you like it, it is less than USD $30, to buy.


  CONCLUSION:
  On both Librivox, and AudiobooksForFree, you are welcomed to send requests 
  for books, that you would like to find in the collection, but which are 
  not yet available. These requests will be put on the wishlist, and 
  somewhere down the stream, you might realize they have been recorded, and 
  made available.
  From both these sites, you will find the books having one anoying 
  drawback. Each file - meaning every chapter usually - starts with an 
  introductory phrase. On AudiobooksForFree, this phrase is usually just 
  about 7 seconds in duration. From the Librivox site, you will find the 
  files having a phrase of approximately 18 seconds. Reading a book like 
  Robinson Crusoe, with no less than 58 files, from AudiobooksForFree, will 
  at least ensure one thing: You know that introductory phrase by heart. 
  This was the very outspring, for the 'skip at beginning' feature, found 
  under the Special menu in MaPlEr. Simply choose this feature, set it to 
  7seconds, and your AudobooksForFree book, will read all through, omitting 
  all these bothersome introductories. And, since the Mar-Dy team developed 
  this feature, they included the 'skip at the end' feature, in same token. 
  Useful, if your audiobooks come with the phrase at the end of each file - 
  which would be more rare.
  Although the selection on the above mentioned websites is usually of an 
  older date, you will surely find stuff that might interest you. 
  Personally, I found it specially helpful, in increasing my English skills, 
  since I could get my hands on good narrated English literature, and could 
  hear the pronunciation; a benefit that people who buy the paper version of 
  the book do not have. It was fun, to read some of the books from my 
  childhood over again, this time in English. At least at the Librivox page, 
  you will also find given material in other languages; and I do hold, this 
  is the case on Gutenberg's site as well (although that is taken from my 
  slippery memory). I do encourage each audiobook lover out there, to browse 
  the above mentioned websites, and see for themselves. Most truely, you 
  will find, that neither of them fully meet your expectations, but taken 
  all into consideration, they will  fill-in each other, leaving you with a 
  rather good library.

  Finally, if you want a hard copy of an audiobook - new release, or older 
  stuff - on tape, CD or MP3 CD, the website at:
     http://www.audiobookbargains.co.uk/index.asp
  will be a good place to search. They are fairly priced, and although not 
  complete, will give you a good selection of more modern-day  literature.


  I hope this mail - although being rather long - has proven beneficial and 
  helpful for some of you, who love to listen to audiobooks. And,  if you 
  are a lover of good radio series, and wonder where to find them for a fair 
  price, I could encourage you to have a look at EBay. Or, write me off 
  list, and I might be able to point you to given websites. True, for all 
  this material, you can do a Yahoo! or Google search, entering phrases like
     Audiobook free download
  Be aware though, that there is sites out there, offering illegal copies of 
  such material, as well as with music files. Always read carefully the site 
  terms, and make an informed decision, before downloading any material, 
  whatso ever. Some sites might also be offering you material for free, then 
  bombarding your computer with all kinds of spyware and other malicious 
  software. The sites I have mentioned, should be safe, and that will leave 
  you with the most pleasant experience. They ar legal, and unless your 
  local authorities would happen to have special laws, should be safe in 
  that manner as well. Hope for you to enjoy the books found there, and that 
  this mail will have helped you to enjoy the features of MaPlEr even the 
  more. You might start to realize, what a powerful tool, MaPlEr has grown 
  into, through the years.

  Regards Steve
  Email:  [email protected]
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