There's a list that deals with iPod touch and other Apple related product at <http://www.mac-access.net> On 19/03/2012, at 2:59 AM, Charlie wrote:
> Hello --- having read what has been said on this thread, it brings me to > ask this question. Could someone point me in the direction of links to other > sources of information and other lists that deal with the IPod Touch. I went > to the Applevis webpage and found the related mailing lists. > > So, if anyone has any other resource, please let me know. > > Charlie > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christopher Chaltain" <[email protected]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 10:30 AM > Subject: Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner > > >> Well, I'm sure I'm not one of the Christopher's Adrian is referring to, >> but I'm sure I'm in that illustrious class of Christopher's Dane is >> talking about. Hopefully, he's not really discriminating against >> everyone named Christopher just because of his feelings towards me. >> >> I don't feel myself to be a pretend list cop. I've merely pointed out >> what is clearly stated in the info for this list and provided my >> opinions, with explanations, on where I think this list should go. I've >> provided links to other sources of information and other lists, when >> I've known about them, and when I thought someone could get more >> accurate and timely information elsewhere. I worked hard to make my >> statements tactful and polite and free from rudeness or criticism. I've >> tried to be nothing but supportive of the moderator and even help out >> where I could. In fact, I think both Tom's and Steve's messages were in >> support of my statements and efforts, although maybe I misread those >> messages, but I suspect it's rather a case of we're all in more >> agreement with one another than maybe we realize. >> >> I also think Dane is being a bit hypocritical in this situation. Several >> times he's made bold and unequivocal statements on what is and isn't on >> topic for this list, which smacks of wanting to be a moderator to me. >> He's complained that others are rude and making the INTERNET a less >> friendly place, and yet he posts a message like the one below. >> >> IMHO, I think we should move on and let Tom's statement speak for >> itself. We all seem to be in agreement that it's Tom's list to moderate >> as he sees fit. >> >> On 18/03/12 06:42, Adrian Spratt wrote: >>> Dane, >>> >>> That's a low blow at the Christophers. Two come to mind right away whose >>> contributions are among the most innovative and reliable on this list. Hi >>> there, in San Antonio and Derbyshire! >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >>> On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan >>> Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2012 12:30 AM >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: Message From The PC Audio E-mail List owner >>> >>> The best statement I've heard yet so thanks Steve for posting. >>> >>> As far as I'm concerned Mr Moderator, you're doing a damn good job at >>> moderation and thank you for posting to the list, I'd rather hear from the >>> moderators themselves than pretend list cops, why is it that all the >>> Christopher's I know are an absolute pain in the behind to deal with >>> <smile>. >>> >>> Anyway back to the subject in hand, this list has a wide scope of messages >>> on it at anyone time and some of these threads do start off on the right >>> subject but can lead to others which aren't appropriate for the list >>> perhaps? Well in such cases I reckon that good moderation dictates that at >>> least a list member or 2 can point a person to another list or group which >>> can deal with a subject more efficiently, an example of this sort of thing >>> might be playing music on a mobile phone, its easy to start talking then >>> about accessibility with speech which can probably be handled better on a >>> list which is dedicated to mobile phone accessibility so the least that can >>> be done to try and be helpful to all concern is for someone to post details >>> of that list. >>> >>> >>> On 18/03/2012, at 2:53 PM, Steve Matzura wrote: >>> >>>> What Jonathan or Jeff did is ancient history, relatively speaking of >>>> course. I don't believe in legacy management. That means I don't >>>> believe list moderators need to carry torches. It's your list now. You >>>> do with it as you like. You were not necessarily entrusted with the >>>> ownership of this list because either Jonathan or Jeff expected you to >>>> drive it in any particular direction, and there is certainly no >>>> provision for either of them taking the list away from you if they >>>> don't like how you're running it. At least, I don't think there is >>>> (LOL). Bottom line, it's your toy and you're letting us play with it. >>>> Make whatever rule you like with the full confidence that you should >>>> definitely have in doing such. If we don't like it, we don't have to >>>> stay. I run a few lists of my own, small ones, just a few hundred >>>> subscribers each, which have spawned, or spun off if you prefer, other >>>> lists on side issues and threads of which I don't tolerate discussion >>>> on my list, and that's both my and my subscribers' prerogative. As you >>>> pointed out, the list of devices for recording and playing audio >>>> whilst connected to a PC is now far longer in lo these dozen short >>>> years, and you've also no doubt noticed there are lots of lists for >>>> the discussion of those devices. Bottom line, like I said before, it's >>>> up to you how you want to drive your own list, and it's up to us >>>> whether we want to stay with it or move on. No harm, no foul, as they >>>> say. And, as I say, that's why there's Coke and Pepsi--always choices. >>>> >>>> On Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:53 -0500, you wrote: >>>> >>>>> I appreciate the comments some subscribers to this e-mail list have >>>>> made regarding what is and what is not on topic for this list, and I >>>>> thank you for your input. >>>>> >>>>> You may or may not know that Jonathan Mosen started this list many >>>>> years ago. I'm not sure when, but it was around 1999. >>>>> After a few years Jonathan no longer wanted to be moderator so he >>>>> turned it over to Jeff Harris. I'm pretty sure that Jeff is the one >>>>> who obtained the domain name and took care of the web hosting site, >>>>> at ultrahost.us. After another few years Jeff no longer wanted the >>>>> list so Jonathan again became the list owner and moderator. >>>>> >>>>> Again, my memory is a bit fuzzy on the time interval, but it was >>>>> perhaps five or six years ago when Jonathan asked for volunteers to >>>>> take ownership and moderating the list and, I'm not sure why, but he >>>>> chose me from those who responded. I did not write the guidelines >>>>> for what is appropriate to be posted to the list. It was either >>>>> Jonathan or Jeff. >>>>> >>>>> It's a difficult decision to make as to what is appropriate for the >>>>> list and what is not. When the guidelines were written, there >>>>> weren't devices such as iPods, iPhones, Humanware or Victor Streams. >>>>> Discussing cell phones has been off topic on this list for a long >>>>> time. Jonathan even has, or had, a list for these discussions. >>>>> >>>>> Since the traffic on the list is still rather small, I think we'll >>>>> just see how subjects and issues play out. Any comments regarding >>>>> the content of the list will be appreciated. >>>>> >>>>> I do pay a fee every year for the domain name and web hosting space >>>>> so I take the list seriously and I want it to be whatever the >>>>> majority of list members prefer. >>>>> >>>>> My e-mail address is: >>>>> >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> >>>>> Thanks for reading, if you did! >>>>> >>>>> Tom >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>>> [email protected] >>>> >>>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [email protected] >>> >>> >>> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >>> [email protected] >> >> >> -- >> Christopher (CJ) >> [email protected] >> >> To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: >> [email protected] > > > To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: > [email protected] To unsubscribe from this list, send a blank email to: [email protected]
