To me, listening to music in surround sound doesn't sound simulated at all.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dane Trethowan" <grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound
If you like listening to music through a surround-sound system with a DSP
effect then fine! and you're underlining the point that an audiophile is
making, you're listening to music in a way that wasn't normally intended for
it to be listened to so the argument then goes that - because of the extra
artificial effect applied by the DSP - you're not able to fully appreciate
the purity of the music, quality of the music etc that you would otherwise
experience from a better quality 2 channel system.
There are exceptions to the rule of course and I'm talking here of quad
recordings or SACD etc but again these are not very common and aren't in
mainstream music recordings, you don't see Quad FM nowadays or you don't see
SACD recordings in large numbers at your local record shops.
On 27 May 2014, at 9:40 am, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote:
Well John, I also find music in surround sound preferable than just stereo
for the reasons you mentioned, for the enveloping quality of music done
that way.
----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gurd" <j.g...@ntlworld.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:16 PM
Subject: RE: listen to music in surround sound
I often listen to music in surround sound effect for the sheer enveloping
fun of it even though there can be a little loss in quality. I have a
fairly
old but very good home theatre set up with Bours & Wilkins media wall
speakers and a Linn Sizmik subwoofer with an Arcam AV600 receiver.
Although
stereo sounds more dynamic and accurate I often listen to music in
surround
sound simulation because it does it so well and is kind of magical. A
really
good Blue ray movie is so involving I've sometimes turned audio
description
off to get the full effect. The only music recording I have in genuine
5.1
is a recently acquired Pure Audio remaster of the Genesis album Selling
England by The Pound. It's wonderful. I can't understand why more great
albums haven't been done this way.
I've also got an old Logitec Z5500 5.1 speaker set attached to my PC and
with that system the surround simulation is far preferable to normal
stereo
because otherwise there's no real depth to the music.
To be honest, though, for convenience, most of the time I just stream
audio
from my PC or iPhone while I do other things. Incidentally, my pet hate
at
the moment is the way so many modern recordings have the volume
compressed
so that all the music is exactly the same level. I'm always trying to
turn
the music up to try to squeeze a bit more dynamic range out of it which
of
course doesn't really work.
John
-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Gary
Wood
Sent: 26 May 2014 16:19
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound
I'm sure nobody.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound
And who has said that it wasn't?
On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote:
That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan"
<grtd...@internode.on.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM
Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound
The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on
the
Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either
recorded in stereo or Mono.
On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider <n8...@comcast.net> wrote:
Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to
listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround
sound
that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound
system
it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound I
liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the
acoostic
effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full
surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo
speakers
iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to
listening to music in surroundsound.
On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a point.
Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening,
you're
better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers
for
doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a
surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and
speakers.
In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening.
On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote:
Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think
audiophiles
would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add
more
speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of
quality.
Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of
equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer made
things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like
graphic equalizers.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos"
<hamitcam...@gmail.com>
To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM
Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3
I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People
make fun
of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke,
and
hell,
I've even seen death threats.
-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of
Dane
Trethowan
Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3
As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose
system or
product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say
their
products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the
case.
The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good to
deal
with, or it is here at any rate.
I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own
home,
there
was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial,
they
made
arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a refund
of the
purchase price, no questions asked.
I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old
and
delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions
asked, no
hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was.
On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood <k8...@att.net> wrote:
I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's
worth
it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten"
<maryot...@comcast.net>
To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM
Subject: Bose Soundlink 3
I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs
$300.
I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was
purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound,
given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much
in
to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the
older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good,
but
my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his
class-room.
So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this
equipment,
what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as
good
competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound,
but
am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally.
Mary
**********
Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane
**********
Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane
**********
Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane
**********
Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane
**********
Dane Trethowan
Skype: grtdane12
Phone US (213) 438-9741
Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598
Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589
Mobile: +61400494862
faceTime +61400494862
Fax +61397437954
Twitter: @grtdane
