Well call me a purest, but I just don't know if that type of thing would do it for me! If I'm going to listen to OTR, I think I'd prefer to hear it as I would have heard it on a big ole radio like they had back then! Having said that, maybe it'd be fun to hear what it would sound like...you know; just for the fun of it! Tom Kaufman
-----Original Message----- From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary Wood Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 11:36 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound Well Tom, one thing I did, I collected old-time radio tapes for several years during the 80's. I used a graphics equalizer at the time, and I created a stereo effect by puttinng one voice on the left channel by raising the left lever, and for the other person, I raised the right lever to give that effect, and it amazed me when listening to it later, even though I knew what I had done. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:21 PM Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound That's pretty much the case yes, On 27 May 2014, at 12:10 pm, Tom Kaufman <[email protected]> wrote: > Okay...I'll jump in on this; please understand I don't claim to know a > whole > lot about it, but if one is listening to music in "surround sound" (and it > wasn't originally produced that way) isn't this a little like trying to > listen to music in stereo that wasn't recorded that way:? Believe me, > I've > heard music that was "re-enhanced" for stereo; for the most part, it just > don't get it for me! I love stereo, but all too often, I've heard music > that was, shall we say "re-channeled" (for lack of a better term) to make > it > _sound_ like it's in stereo; it just doesn't work! > Tom Kaufman > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary > Wood > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 10:03 PM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound > > To me, listening to music in surround sound doesn't sound simulated at > all. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dane Trethowan" <[email protected]> > To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 6:58 PM > Subject: Re: listen to music in surround sound > > > If you like listening to music through a surround-sound system with a DSP > effect then fine! and you're underlining the point that an audiophile is > making, you're listening to music in a way that wasn't normally intended > for > > it to be listened to so the argument then goes that - because of the extra > artificial effect applied by the DSP - you're not able to fully appreciate > the purity of the music, quality of the music etc that you would otherwise > experience from a better quality 2 channel system. > > There are exceptions to the rule of course and I'm talking here of quad > recordings or SACD etc but again these are not very common and aren't in > mainstream music recordings, you don't see Quad FM nowadays or you don't > see > > SACD recordings in large numbers at your local record shops. > > > On 27 May 2014, at 9:40 am, Gary Wood <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Well John, I also find music in surround sound preferable than just >> stereo > >> for the reasons you mentioned, for the enveloping quality of music done >> that way. >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Gurd" <[email protected]> >> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <[email protected]> >> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 5:16 PM >> Subject: RE: listen to music in surround sound >> >> >>> I often listen to music in surround sound effect for the sheer >>> enveloping >>> fun of it even though there can be a little loss in quality. I have a >>> fairly >>> old but very good home theatre set up with Bours & Wilkins media wall >>> speakers and a Linn Sizmik subwoofer with an Arcam AV600 receiver. >>> Although >>> stereo sounds more dynamic and accurate I often listen to music in >>> surround >>> sound simulation because it does it so well and is kind of magical. A >>> really >>> good Blue ray movie is so involving I've sometimes turned audio >>> description >>> off to get the full effect. The only music recording I have in genuine >>> 5.1 >>> is a recently acquired Pure Audio remaster of the Genesis album Selling >>> England by The Pound. It's wonderful. I can't understand why more great >>> albums haven't been done this way. >>> >>> I've also got an old Logitec Z5500 5.1 speaker set attached to my PC and >>> with that system the surround simulation is far preferable to normal >>> stereo >>> because otherwise there's no real depth to the music. >>> >>> To be honest, though, for convenience, most of the time I just stream >>> audio >>> from my PC or iPhone while I do other things. Incidentally, my pet hate >>> at >>> the moment is the way so many modern recordings have the volume >>> compressed >>> so that all the music is exactly the same level. I'm always trying to >>> turn >>> the music up to try to squeeze a bit more dynamic range out of it which >>> of >>> course doesn't really work. >>> >>> John >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Gary >>> Wood >>> Sent: 26 May 2014 16:19 >>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>> Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound >>> >>> I'm sure nobody. >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>> <[email protected]> >>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 9:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound >>> >>> >>> And who has said that it wasn't? >>> >>> On 27 May 2014, at 12:35 am, Gary Wood <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> That may be true, but it's still a matter of choice, I believe. >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dane Trethowan" >>>> <[email protected]> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2014 8:19 AM >>>> Subject: Re: listen to music in surrround sound >>>> >>>> >>>> The fact is - whether we like it or not - 99% of the recorded music on >>>> the >>> >>>> Planet was never recorded for surround-sound systems, it was either >>>> recorded in stereo or Mono. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 26 May 2014, at 11:17 pm, brian sackrider <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi this is Brian Sackrider and it is a matter of prefference on how to >>>>> listen to music if you listen toyour music in stereo or in surround >>>>> sound >>> >>>>> that is your prefference. I used to have a pioneer surround sound >>>>> system >>> >>>>> it was the htp 55 and I did like to listen to music in surround sound >>>>> I >>>>> liked the concert hall effect and all of the seperation and the >>>>> acoostic >>>>> effects. in my opinion that is the only to listen to music in full >>>>> surround sound you just can't get that kind of sound from stereo >>>>> speakers >>> >>>>> iI do like to hear good stereo speakers but there is no compearason to >>>>> listening to music in surroundsound. >>>>> On 5/26/2014 2:54 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: >>>>>> You're right, they don't like surround-sound and they do have a >>>>>> point. >>>>>> >>>>>> Surround-Sound systems are not designed for pure music listening, >>>>>> you're >>> >>>>>> better off with a good stereo amp and a good pair of stereo speakers >>>>>> for >>> >>>>>> doing things like that and here's their point, for the cost of a >>>>>> surround-sound system you can buy better sound stereo amp and >>>>>> speakers. >>>>>> >>>>>> In short, surround-sound is for entertaining and enjoyable listening. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 26 May 2014, at 4:52 pm, Gary Wood <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Well it's too bad some people are like that. I don't think >>>>>>> audiophiles >>> >>>>>>> would like surround sound. Someone told me once that when you add >>>>>>> more >>> >>>>>>> speakers to the mix with surround sound, there is some loss of >>>>>>> quality. >>> >>>>>>> Heck, I even used to use a graphics equalizer with one piece of >>>>>>> equipment I had, but when I bought surround sound, the equalizer >>>>>>> made >>>>>>> things sound distored, so I quit using it. Audiophiles don't like >>>>>>> graphic equalizers. >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hamit Campos" >>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>> To: "'PC Audio Discussion List'" <[email protected]> >>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 8:49 AM >>>>>>> Subject: RE: Bose Soundlink 3 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I know audiophiles don't like them. I've seen it on youtube. People >>>>>>>> make fun >>>>>>>> of people, people say the no highs, no lows, it must be Bose joke, >>>>>>>> and >>> >>>>>>>> hell, >>>>>>>> I've even seen death threats. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of >>>>>>>> Dane >>>>>>>> Trethowan >>>>>>>> Sent: Sunday, May 25, 2014 2:11 AM >>>>>>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Bose Soundlink 3 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As much as Bose users won't like to hear it, you won't find a Bose >>>>>>>> system or >>>>>>>> product mentioned in an audiophile magazine but that's nice to say >>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>> products are cheap, nasty and rubbish because that just isn't the >>>>>>>> case. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The products are reasonable at worst and the company is very good >>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>> deal >>>>>>>> with, or it is here at any rate. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been able to try before I buy the products I have in my own >>>>>>>> home, >>> >>>>>>>> there >>>>>>>> was one product I didn't like and I told Bose so after the trial, >>>>>>>> they >>> >>>>>>>> made >>>>>>>> arrangements to pick the product up from me and I was given a >>>>>>>> refund >>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>> purchase price, no questions asked. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I had a problem with my Bose Soundlink Air and a pickup of the old >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> delivery of the new replacement was arranged, again no questions >>>>>>>> asked, no >>>>>>>> hitches etc, I just had to identify who I was. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 25 May 2014, at 4:08 pm, Gary Wood <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I guess people say that you get what you pay for, and maybe it's >>>>>>>>> worth >>>>>>>>> it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" >>>>>>>>> <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2014 7:25 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Bose Soundlink 3 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I wonder if anybody on list owns this speaker from Bose. It costs >>>>>>>>>> $300. >>>>>>>>>> I saw one briefly last evening at the Verizon store, as I was >>>>>>>>>> purchasing my new iPhone and was pretty impressed with the sound, >>>>>>>>>> given the size of the box. I really haven't looked all that much >>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>> to this sort of speaker. I have an older dock that works with the >>>>>>>>>> older style iPhone connectors, and it really sounds pretty good, >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> my better half has sort of taken it over for use in his >>>>>>>>>> class-room. >>>>>>>>>> So I'd like to know from those who have experienced this >>>>>>>>>> equipment, >>>>>>>>>> what did you think, and are there other units you'd recommend as >>>>>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>>> competition? I like the size and the volume and depth of sound, >>>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>> am not thrilled with the $300 price tag, naturally. >>>>>>>>>> Mary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ********** >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>>>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>>>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>>>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ********** >>>>>> >>>>>> Dane Trethowan >>>>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ********** >>>> >>>> Dane Trethowan >>>> Skype: grtdane12 >>>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>>> faceTime +61400494862 >>>> Fax +61397437954 >>>> Twitter: @grtdane >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> ********** >>> >>> Dane Trethowan >>> Skype: grtdane12 >>> Phone US (213) 438-9741 >>> Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 >>> Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 >>> Mobile: +61400494862 >>> faceTime +61400494862 >>> Fax +61397437954 >>> Twitter: @grtdane >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > > ********** > > Dane Trethowan > Skype: grtdane12 > Phone US (213) 438-9741 > Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 > Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 > Mobile: +61400494862 > faceTime +61400494862 > Fax +61397437954 > Twitter: @grtdane > > > > > > ********** Dane Trethowan Skype: grtdane12 Phone US (213) 438-9741 Phone U.K. 01245 79 0598 Phone Australia (03) 9005 8589 Mobile: +61400494862 faceTime +61400494862 Fax +61397437954 Twitter: @grtdane
