Hello Andre I hope you are well. Have you perhaps found a way to listen to the match tomorrow morning. The station on tapin radio does not play and even the New Zealand app on the iphone is silent. Regards Fanus
From: André van Deventer Sent: Friday, July 22, 2016 4:03 PM To: 'PC Audio Discussion List' Subject: RE: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers As far as I understand it it is just an analog input. At least that is what the manual that I downloaded says. Regards Andre -----Original Message----- From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Dane Trethowan Sent: 22 July 2016 12:48 PM To: PC Audio Discussion List Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers Yes okay, sorry about the miss-understanding there <smile>, I've read those complaints too in reviews and - whilst those reviewers are very much entitled to their viewpoint - I think it trivia givin what the MM3's are but that's going over old ground again. Regarding the line-in? You're correct about audio quality depreciating somewhat, its an analogue line-in after all and the MM1'S are based around Digital input hence the USB cable from the computer to the MM1's. Now I can't remember exactly whether the analogue input of the MM1's doubles as a Toslink 3.5MM digital input? I know the input socket on the A7 can be used as both analogue and digital, I have the A7 linked to my Sangean DDR63+ through a digital cable so with that - the DDr63 has DAB+ Radio, CD Player, Internet Radio, iPod dock etc -, with the A7'S ability to stream AirPlay and it linked to my computer via USB I have a pretty powerful system to be going on with. On 22/07/2016 6:49 PM, André van Deventer wrote: > Dane > > Perhaps I have not expressed myself correctly. Definitely no one on this > list has complained about the fact that these speakers do not fill a huge > room with sound. But I have read quite a few reviews complaining about this. > Perhaps this is what I should have said. > > Like you I like the fact that the DAC is actually built into the the speakers > so that you will only need a USB connection. I have not tried the 3.5 mm > input of the speakers yet but according to what I have read the sound quality > depreciates quite a bit - which makes me think that perhaps much of the > signal processing is actually done at the DAC stage of the speakers. > > André > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of > Dane Trethowan > Sent: 22 July 2016 10:15 AM > To: PC Audio Discussion List > Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers > > Can I ask you who has complained about the Bowers And Wilkins MM1 speaker set > not filling a house with sound? No one on this list that I'm aware of has > complained about that, I've meerly mentioned it as a trait of this speaker > set and its perfectly acceptible to think that a desktop pair of computer > speakers wouldn't fill a house with sound as they're not designed to do that > at all. > > > Logitech and other cheaper manufacturers do make speakers that disperse sound > however they don't sound nearly as good as the MM1's do as computer speakers. > > > Again I make the obvious point which you're making and have made before as I > have done, the MM1 speakers are great placed on your desktop with you in > front of them or near them to fully enjoy them however if its room filling - > or even house filling - sound you want then the A7 or A5 are worth > considering. > > > I think of the A7 as a computer speaker because it has - like the MM1 - a USB > input so it can be connected to your computer as a USB sound card would be > connected - as is the case with the MM1's -. > > > The A7 is more a speaker music system whereas the MM1's are desktop computer > speakers. > > > My only other comment is that I really wish I knew of other music > systems that had a USB input as the A7 does so if anyone knows any > others then perhaps they may wish to comment? I only know of one other > and that's the Kef X300 I think its call and that system is actually a > pair of bookshelf speakers so they're rather large. > > > Its a beautiful set of speakers without a doubt and exhibits > everything in sound that Kef speakers are well known for. > > > > On 22/07/2016 5:35 PM, André van Deventer wrote: >> The mm1 is manufactured as a desk top set and that is the job it does very >> very good. I really cannot understand the complaints some folks have about >> it not filling up the whole house or big room with sound. They are not >> designed to do that. They are designed to give you clear sound without >> booming bass when you are sitting in front of them. And the sound is >> incredibly clear and detailed. The bass is definitely there for such a >> small set of speakers but it is not a booming sound. Interestingly enough >> you can actually feel the bass on the desktop where they are standing. They >> cost me both my arms and both my legs but are certainly worth it. >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of >> Dane Trethowan >> Sent: 22 July 2016 01:12 AM >> To: PC Audio Discussion List >> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers >> >> Yep fair point about the “Standby” issue unless something could trigger them >> through the USB port connection perhaps? I’ll do some research on that later >> on today. >> >> You’re right about opinion on sound being very subjective <smile>. The one >> thing I’ll say about the M1’s from hearing them that often is that they’re >> not the type of speaker for a lounge room - meaning they’re not good at >> projecting sound too far - so obviously they’re meant to enjoy good Hi-Fi >> sound with you sitting nearly in front of them at your computer desk with >> the M1’s sitting either side of you pounding up the rich sound. >> >> On the other hand - if you want something that projects sound far and wide - >> and sounds as good at one end of the house as it does the other - then >> something like the A7 might be the go, the A7 I have myself and it also >> hooks up to the USB port of your computer which is a great touch for a >> speaker system. >> >> >>> On 22 Jul 2016, at 8:25 AM, Mary Otten <maryot...@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> Well, opinion of sound is always quite subjective, but I think the BMW M1 >>> is a wonderful speaker. For their size, they are downright amazing. They >>> are a small desk top speaker. And yes, even though I have left mine on >>> occasionally for quite some time, and the right speaker did get rather >>> warm, no damage apparently resulted from that. I don't honestly know if >>> there is some kind of sleep or standby mode. It could also be even if there >>> is one, that the occasional sound coming through my Mac, such as a mail >>> notification or whatever, would've been enough to keep triggering the >>> speakers even when I was not actually using the Mac. >>> Mary >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jul 21, 2016, at 12:04 PM, chris ramsay <cram...@cox.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> mary what is your opinion of the sound of the b and >>>> w speakers. I think i'd be interested. Chris >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Otten" >>>> <maryot...@comcast.net> >>>> To: "PC Audio Discussion List" <pc-audio@pc-audio.org> >>>> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 2:58 PM >>>> Subject: Re: Bowers And Wilkins MM1 Computer Speakers >>>> >>>> >>>> This beaker containing all the amplification stuff does get hot. If you >>>> leave it on for a long time. If you just turn it off when you're not using >>>> it, it's fine. But if you forget and leave it on for a long time as I have >>>> done on occasion, yes, it does get hot. >>>> Mary >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jul 21, 2016, at 11:53 AM, Dane Trethowan <grtd...@internode.on.net> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hi there! >>>>> >>>>> I know that people on this list have these speakers and I’m saving for a >>>>> pair myself. >>>>> >>>>> So to my question, I read another review on these fine speakers which >>>>> states that the speakers get hot after use. >>>>> >>>>> Well I’ve seen and listened to them enough and I’ve never noticed any >>>>> real heat generation from them though to be perfectly fair I’ve never >>>>> used a pair over a long period of time in a home environment so I put the >>>>> question to you all. >>>>> >>>>> I’m sure the MM1’s generate a little heat but - as I’ve seen them thus >>>>> far - no more than body heat type temperature. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ********** >>>>> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of >>>>> the halfwits in this world behind. >>>> >> ********** >> Those of a positive and enquiring frame of mind will leave the rest of the >> halfwits in this world behind. >> >> >> >> >> >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >> >> >> -- ********** Those who don't need help are prepared to help themselves --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus