I have the Victor Stream 2nd gen; this is my third. For what I use it for -- 
reading books -- it's great! I can create .mp3 files of books using K1000 or 
download talking books or audible books. I don't use the wireless feature. You 
can connect an external speaker using a patch cord; it works great! I use the 
In-motion speaker; I have my Victor connected to it. I also use headphones or 
the little internal speaker. It isn't perfect; I'd love for it to have 
Bluetooth. But I'm quite happy with my Stream. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of Hamit Campos
Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 11:35 PM
To: PC Audio Discussion List
Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation

Yeah the audio is kinda meh. You're right Dain. An IOS device and or 
especially a samsung device do sound better. Ah I can hear the apple 
fans now. How dare you? Did you just dare with a streight face tell me a 
samsung device sounds loads better than an IPhone? Yeah I did. Kinda off 
this topic but I noted the difference with my nephew Jonathan's note 
phone. Now the quality thing. Could thhis be cause it's for DAISY books 
for the most part? But I'm not sure about that cause Plextalk is better. 
The PTP1 sounded better to me when I saw them at the NFB national 
convention in 2013. I was also shocked that the PTP1 aka the Plextalk 
pocket looks so much like it's a mini PTR1. But then to get back to the 
topic at hand well at the time at least the streem 1 was such a 
prediction of the Strattus players. How does the Streem do connected to 
an external speaker though? To me the headphone pres of the strattus and 
the Clasic ain't that good.They too are meh. Exeptable I suppose but meh 
not hi fy.

On 5/1/2017 8:09 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote:
> If you have nothing to compare the speaker of the VR Stream to then 
> yep its probably very good audio however I have plenty of devices 
> around my house - roughly the same size - which I can compare the 
> Stream to and - given that - I can tell you that audio from the 
> internal speaker of the Stream is not good, is muffled and should be - 
> in my view - better than it is given other basic devices are these days.
> You mention listening to music through headphones etc and you're quite 
> right as you get the full benefit of better audio however I do invite 
> you - if you haven't already done so - to listen to music through the 
> internal speaker of say an iPhone 6S or a Samsung Galaxy S6 and you'll 
> soon hear a huge difference.
> Again no, not an ideal listening environment but its certainly a vast 
> improvement on what the Stream gives you and through a smaller speaker.
> I will say however that the audio from the second generation of stream 
> is quite an improvement upon that of the first generation.
> On 2/05/2017 9:28 AM, Tom Kaufman wrote:
>> I've never thought of the Victor Stream's audio as being 
>> "muffled"...having said this, I think of it more like the sound of a 
>> 6-transistor radio!  If you plug it into a good speaker or a good set 
>> of headphones, you do get a pretty good sound!  But no...if I'm going 
>> to listen to any music on that thing, I'd much prefer an external 
>> speaker or headphones!
>> Tom Kaufman
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Pc-audio [mailto:pc-audio-boun...@pc-audio.org] On Behalf Of 
>> Dane Trethowan
>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 5:34 PM
>> To: PC Audio Discussion List <pc-audio@pc-audio.org>
>> Subject: Re: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>> I just shake my head though when it comes to that muffled speaker for
>> audio, all my phones do far better than what the Stream does but then
>> again audio has always been a problem with the Stream.
>> The handling of multiple format files - for recording as well as
>> playback - is a welcom addition and - at the very least - the quality of
>> audio from the headphones jack seems to be quite acceptable.
>> On 2/05/2017 2:41 AM, Evan Reese wrote:
>>> As to slow downloading of data, I have noticed with ours, and those of
>>> some friends, that it doesn't seem to have a great wi-fi transceiver
>>> in it. Even when I'm close to my router, it usually says that
>>> reception is poor.
>>> Other than that, you are right, a lot of functionality in that little
>>> package.
>>> Evan
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Dane Trethowan
>>> Sent: Monday, May 01, 2017 10:24 AM
>>> To: PC Audio Discussion List
>>> Subject: Victor Reader Stream 2nd Generation
>>> Hi!
>>> I just bought one of these units and would like to make comment on my
>>> purchase.
>>> Firstly I think that the unit does a brilliant job for what it is in
>>> most respects.
>>> The sound from the internal speaker is a little muffled however - 
>>> having
>>> already heard a VR Stream - I was already prepared for this, a bit 
>>> of an
>>> annoyance one might say so to overcome this I use a small BUniden
>>> hand-held amplified battery speaker I've had for years, cost me $25
>>> about 7 years ago, pity the Stream doesn't have Bluetooth but I guess a
>>> product can't have everythint.
>>> Now I don't know whether this is my unit in particular but I have
>>> noticed that the downloading of data seems to be incredibly slow
>>> compared to other devices I have on my network, I used the "Check for
>>> Updates" function and - according to that - the firmware is up to date,
>>> well at least the data does get downloaded I guess.
>>> There's a hell of a lot of functionality packed into the VR Stream box
>>> and a lot of this - such as the Internet Radio, podcasts and so forth -
>>> I won't bother using - given I already have better solutions for that
>>> sort of thing - but for those who don't the VR Stream provides a great
>>> entry level to the world of Internet Radio and Podcasting.
>>> Getting online with the Vision Australia library was a snap so I
>>> downlaoded a couple of books.
>>> Again, I have other Apps and so forth which I prefer to use myself but
>>> the Stream is convenient for reading, no doubt about that even though I
>>> read all my newspapers these days straight from the web site its 
>>> good to
>>> know I have a reliable backup.

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