On 02/26/2013 12:18 AM, Zhangxian (Xian) wrote:
Hi, Dear Adrian,
I am confused by the explanation you provided below.
    My question originated from the definition of an active PCE provided in 
section 17(copied in below).

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发件人: Adrian Farrel [[email protected]]



In the second case you would be suggesting an option I personally don't consider
is allowable. That is, a PCE cannot, IMHO, provision paths. It can only issue
recommendations for rerouting of LSPs that have been delegated to it.

Thus you have drawn out an important distinction between an NMS and an Active
PCE. That is, the NMS can provision new LSP and has control over existing LSPs.
The Active PCE cannot provision new LSPs and can only suggest changes to
existing LSPs. I have added a little text about this to Section 19.

Adrian


Dear Xian, Adrian, all,

Sorry for chiming in, this was one of the points discussed in Atlanta and, IMHO, the taxonomy that I feel comfortable with after discussing with some involved authors

a) Stateless PCE

b) Stateful PCE [LSPDB]

b.1) Passive stateful PCE [ ~LSPDB for the purposes of path computation ]

    b.2) Active stateful PCE  [can affect state of  delegated LSPs...]

        b.2.1) Active stateful PCE without instantiation capabilities

b.2.2) Active stateful PCE with instantiation capabilities [... and can instantiate new LSPs. Instantiated LSPs are automatically delegated]


It seems to me that there is no agreement regarding whether b.2.2 should be a function of a PCE. If I remember correctly, it has been mentioned that this is (at least for now) out of charter

Adrian (correct me if wrong!) has stated his personal preference to _not_ include such function. Oscar, Ina, Jan, Cyril, Ed. etc. have also discussed about this ( I cannot comment on their preferences). Arguments given against is that this should be a function of an NMS, a VNTM, a provisioning manager, etc. On the other hand, accepting it to be a function of the PCE seems to build on top of the existing PCEP to define what otherwise would be an undefined interface ?

I don't have a strong opinion, but instantiation of LSPs being a function of an NMS does not necessarily exclude a PCE from being able to do so. An NMS could use a (to be defined) PCE northbound interface and the active stateful with instantiation capabilities can use the PCEP session to instantiate such LSPs.

Comments or thoughts? Given that Ina, Ed, Xian are leading the work on stateful PCE and that there are a couple of drafts discussion instantiation of LSPs (i.e. PCCreate) both in MPLS and GMPLS networks, it would be interesting to know the wg opinion about this. It would be great it we could gather arguments for and against.

Thanks and best regards
R,


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