Hi Jeff,

I agree with some of the operational benefits listed for BGP, but I
was wondering what is your thoughts w.r.t the convergence time for
BGP-LS? Since its dependent on IGP-TE, wouldn't it suffer from the
same convergence delay?

Dhruv

On Thu, Jul 17, 2014 at 9:28 AM, Jeff Tantsura
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> While i find BGP-LS much more suitable for the distribution of TE data due to:
> -BGP is well understood (operations/ troubleshooting, etc); sync, HA issues 
> had be solved
> -Policies framework is comprehensive
> -BGP infra in most cases is already in place
> -RR construct provides hierarchy
> -many more to mention
>
> For the cases where BGP is not wanted (perceived as too complex/ doesn't 
> support data types needed)/ PCE infra has been deployed and practices well 
> understood it would make sense to use it.
>
> >From use cases prospective i think it only addresses (i), the rest could be 
> >addressed similarly well by BGP,  optical extensions are to come.
>
> Regards,
> Jeff
>
>> On Jul 2, 2014, at 2:51 PM, "Leeyoung" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> We have just published a new PCE draft concerning alternative ways of 
>> transporting TE data that may not depend on IGP-TE or BGP-LS.
>>
>> The motivation for this work is a timely update of TE data directly from 
>> nodes to PCE(s) to support scenarios like:
>>
>> (i) networks that do not support IGP-TE or BGP-LS but want to implement PCE.
>> (ii) applications that require accurate and timely TE data that current 
>> convergence time associated with flooding is not justified.
>> (iii) reduction of node OH processing of flooding mechanisms (esp. optical 
>> transport networks where there are large amounts of traffic data and 
>> constraints due to OTN/WSON/Flexi-grid, etc. Note that also BGP-LS is not 
>> supported in optical transport networks today)
>>
>> Your comment will always be appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Young (on behalf of other co-authors)
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
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>> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 4:32 PM
>> To: Greg Bernstein; Dhruv Dhody; Greg Bernstein; Zhenghaomian; Dhruv Dhody; 
>> Leeyoung; Leeyoung; Zhenghaomian
>> Subject: New Version Notification for 
>> draft-lee-pce-transporting-te-data-00.txt
>>
>>
>> A new version of I-D, draft-lee-pce-transporting-te-data-00.txt
>> has been successfully submitted by Young Lee and posted to the IETF 
>> repository.
>>
>> Name:        draft-lee-pce-transporting-te-data
>> Revision:    00
>> Title:        PCEP Extensions in Support of Transporting Traffic Engineering 
>> Data
>> Document date:    2014-07-02
>> Group:        Individual Submission
>> Pages:        20
>> URL:            
>> http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-lee-pce-transporting-te-data-00.txt
>> Status:         
>> https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-lee-pce-transporting-te-data/
>> Htmlized:       
>> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-lee-pce-transporting-te-data-00
>>
>>
>> Abstract:
>>   In order to compute and provide optimal paths, Path Computation
>>   Elements (PCEs) require an accurate and timely Traffic Engineering
>>   Database (TED). Traditionally this TED has been obtained from a link
>>   state routing protocol supporting traffic engineering extensions.
>>   This document discusses possible alternatives to TED creation. This
>>   document gives architectural alternatives for these enhancements and
>>   their potential impacts on network nodes, routing protocols, and
>>   PCE.
>>
>>
>>
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