Hi, Deborah/Dhruv,

On Thu, Sep 15, 2016 at 9:03 AM, BRUNGARD, DEBORAH A <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Mirja,
>
> Yes, thanks Mirja for you detailed review.
>
> As Dhruv noted, this is not representing an average utilization, but the
> current bandwidth utilization. As Dhruv noted, we could swap this sentence
> in the Abstract for the term later used in section 4.2.2 "actual". For me,
> though, current bandwidth utilization is a common (simple) term used often
> by operational folks, and it has a time element clarification. The document
> has been reviewed quite extensively by others, so I'm not convinced about
> the need to change this sentence of the Abstract. We'll discuss it more
> among the Chairs and authors.


Mirja may be having a post-telechat beer, and this is for her ballot
position, but I'm thinking that "time element clarification" is key here.
If "current bandwidth utilization" is measured on a scale of minutes or
larger, it usually doesn't freak out TSV folk, but if it's measured on a
scale of single-digit seconds or smaller, it usually does.

At least, it freaks me out. I spent most of the time I was responsible AD
for one particular working group talking to them about how frequently they
should be adjusting cost maps based on bandwidth utilization and other,
basically instantaneous, transport metrics. The more frequently people make
adjustments, the more likely you are to see oscillation between paths that
you don't really want to see. For a distributed system, you're always
basing decisions on something in the past that may have changed since you
found out about it.

I'll let Mirja take it from here on resolving her comment (because she
might be talking about something completely different), but wanted to chime
in, so that her comment doesn't become my comment, too.

Thanks,

Spencer
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