Hi Marina,

I fully agree with your 3rd point. Path ID is not a routing object, it is more 
like an SR path attribute, so It is better to add sub-TLV to the LSP object. 
This is proposed in   
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-li-pce-sr-path-segment-01. In this way, the 
SR-ERO is not affected by path segment. The path segment can be added into the 
SID list based on the policy.
I appreciate your idea very much.

Also, just like you said, the reverse ID can be carried within an LSP object, 
we did think about this at the beginning.

However, we found that we need the detailed information of the reverse SR path 
in some scenarios, such as for directing the reverse path for BFD 
https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-mpls-bfd-directed-09. But it is not 
suitable to carry the reverse SR path information within a LSP object. Also, it 
is a little bit weird to carry information another SR path within the LSP 
object.

But if we use the association group object like using the association group 
(https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-pce-association-bidir-01) to associate 
two MPLS LSPs into a bidirectional LSP, problem solved. Therefore,  we defined 
a new association group called “Double-sided Bidirectional SR Path Association 
Group” for associating two unidirectional SR path into a bidirectional SR path 
in https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-li-pce-sr-bidir-path-00. In this way, two 
unidirectional SR path can be associated as a unidirectional SR path in a 
general way without affecting SR-ERO list.

Those drafts have been presented in IETF 102, and your comments are very 
welcome!

BTW,  there was a discussion among the authors of draft path segment about PCEP 
extensions for Path segment, and there was an agreement to follow the way 
defined in draft-li-pce-sr-path-segment-01 and draft-li-pce-sr-bidir-path-00.

Last but not least, your comments and contributions are very welcome!

Thanks,
Cheng

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Hi, Xiong Quan,
Thank you for reply.
Some comments:

1.       R bit shall be 1 for reverse direction (and not 0)

2.       As I understand, we don’t have egress ERO for reverse direction. My 
suggestion was to add the second (reverse) path ID to the ingress ERO of LSP.

3.       One remark: path ID is not routing object, may be make sense to add 
two sub-TLVs to the LSP object (one for forward path ID and one with R bit for 
reverse path ID). It means that LSP will have two additional attributes – 
forward path ID and reverse path ID

Best regards,

Marina

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Subject: 答复: PCEP extensions for SR-TP




Hi Marina,



Thanks for your attention and comments!  I think you have proposed a good 
question.



The "path label " which my draft defined is inserted into ERO list and uniquely 
identifies a uni-directional path.

So one label can be added to the Ingress ERO list for the  forwarding direction 
and

another label with the R bit set to 0 can be added to the egress ERO list for 
the reverse direction.

The two path labels can be the same or diffrent and can be binded to indentify 
a bi-directional path.



I will update the draft soon and provide more details.

More comments are welcome!



Quan





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日 期 :2018年08月20日 20:31
主 题 :PCEP extensions for SR-TP
Dear authors of draft-xiong-pce-pcep-extension-sr-tp,
My colleagues and I are interested in some clarifications:
According to this draft, Path label can be added as the last label in the LSP 
SR-ERO list.
Each endpoint element needs 2 labels – one for forward path ID and one for 
incoming path ID
Our question is – if 2 path labels can be added to the LSP SR-ERO list (one 
with “R” bit) per LSP?
Path label with “R” bit set will not be added to outgoing label stack, but will 
be configured in the data plane as an incoming label.
Using this approach one SR-ERO list will contain outgoing Path label as well as 
incoming Path label
PCE path example:


Best regards,

Marina
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