>> Looking for cheep real speed increase for a game machine.
>> I have a 7500/G3/350/1, 4.5 Vodoo32, 185ram, so the 9600 is not a speed
>> increaser,  I just lust after more PCI slots.


>Personally, I'd hunt down a B&W G3 that has an AGP slot and go with that.
>Voodoo cards are going out quickly, since they won't be supported in OS X.
>I'm sure others might have different opinions, but if a G3 upgraded 7x00
>isn't cutting it for you, it's unlikely that a 9x00, or even a beige G3 >will
>do it. If you go B&W, theres very little price reason not to get an AGP
>model, and theres so much more compatability there. You could get a top of
>the line ATi Radeon 7500...

Unfortunately B&W G3s do not have AGP video. The same goes for the early  (Yikes) G4s. 
This has been a problem with OSX DVD support as Apple's DVD player does not support 
non-AGP systems (although it can be made to work with a simple hack). However for 
gaming, the 66 Mhz PCI slot on these machines will do quite nicely with a good card. 
Even the stock Rage 128 video is not too bad. I find the Unreal Tournament demo quite 
smooth at 800x600 on my 350Mhz B&W with the stock Rage 128. Of course a Radeon would 
be much better. I also have a 7500/G3/400 and find that the B&W feels faster for just 
about everything, even though it has a slower processor. It has a double the bus 
speed, and a faster disk I/O subsystem. 
AGP video is worthwhile though, if you can afford a machine that supports it (newer 
G4s and iMacs).  
 B&W G3's are still not that cheap (about $700-$900 on eBay), but they are still less 
expensive than the cheapest AGP equipped G4 ($1200 and up). 

Alan Robinson


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