Are we talking about cars, hehe? Great my specialty! As far as a car having 
most of its wear at startup, yes this is somewhat true. But is most of the 
wear to an engine because of all the times you start it up, no! Most of an 
engines wear is because of the repeated up and down motion of the piston in 
the cylinder bore (most done while the motors running). Pistons have what's 
called piston rings on them and these are continually contacting the walls of 
the bore at all times. Oil is then sprayed up to these rings and this acts as 
a lubricant to reduce wear. 

Engines now can supply oil to the piston rings within seconds of you cranking 
it over (and some will supply oil while cranking it over). Also new advances 
have been made to reduce the amount of wear onto the cylinder walls and other 
parts. For example some motors using a Molybdenum coated piston skirt and a 
tetra-methyl lead coated crank for reduced wear. So the point being, having a 
car running nonstop will actually reduce the life of the motor many times 
faster than turning it off and starting it back up when needed. The only wear 
you would reduce is the starter running it nonstop.

   Jake
   94 Hybrid Civic HB
   List Owner and Head Tech
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HondaAcura

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Kyle, I hear where you're coming from, but there can be good reasons for

sleeping (and idling, for that matter).


> Restarting is not the answer.


Like Scott and Clark said, restarting can solve some stupid problems

attributable to other things beside the memory that gets cleared.


This morning we printed one page. This afternoon we wanted to print another

page. Page sent to printer, printer did nothing. Page dutifully showed in

the print queue, but no action. A restart fixed it.


> I personally shut my macs off every night when I go to sleep and turn them

> back on again when I need them.


I think this is the best way to ensure satisfactory computing, especially

when work is either critical or your tolerance for having to possibly wait

for a frozen Mac and a restart is low. That's why my Mac at work is always

shut down at night. We have some proprietary software that's crap, and it

likes to corrupt the memory whenever it can.


This is also good whenever someone uses their Mac for a only a little while

each day, or once every few days. No need to keep things going.


> I do no believe in "sleeping" a computer.  If you turn your Mac off and

> unplug it, it is safe.  If you sleep it, it may fall victim to electrical

> spikes and surges, power outages or earthquakes.


But you better believe my main Mac at home always stays on. I'm at it on and

off several times a day, at all hours. No way am I gonna shut down when I'm

coming back in a few hours. The occasional glitch (see printing above) is

rare, and the benefits of sleep far outweigh needing to reboot every week or

so.


 I have a good UPS to absorb line spikes, and an equipment guarantee that

came with the UPS that covers everything else.


> I ask you this:  "would you leave your car idling in  the driveway all day?"


No, but I do whenever I can if I'm somewhere safe. Also, if I've been

somewhere in one car earlier in the day, I try to take that car again if I'm

leaving again. No reason to make both cars warm up. Starting a car is where

most of the engine wear comes from. Ever notice pizza delivery vehicles

always have the engines going? Not great for the environment, but great for

the car.


-David

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