> I just swapped my Xclaim 3D Plus video card from a 7500 to my  8600 with
> a G3/300 upgrade card. All works fine except on start-up and restart. If
> I use the keyboard power on key, I hear the start up chime and hear the
> hard drive start to spin up but my monitor stays dark. No apple smiley
> face and no gray screen. When I power down using the case switch and
> restart with the case switch the monitor comes on with the start up
> screen and all is normal. [...]
> 
>  Grateful for any ideas or fixes.
>        Sam

Well, I seem to have the exact same problem (intermittently -- it doesn't do it 
on all start-ups) with my 8100/80. Of course, a PCI card is not involved in 
that 1. At 1st I thought it might be a hard drive problem (stiction?), but on
closer listening the hd does seem to spin up after I first press the power on key. 
After that, nothing. Usually it will start up regularly if I press the power 
button on the CPU, as you have found. PRAM seems to be OK, I know there's
that problem with 6100s & some other pizzaboxes. Zapping didn't seem to help.

I've already had 1 power supply in this machine die on me, but the symptoms
then -- also intemittent, prior to its complete demise -- were that it simply 
wouldn't start up, period. I wonder if the G4 card in the 8100, or the G3 in 
your machine, is sucking up too much power? I've heard that Sonnet has 
discontinued their G4 card for x100s. I could try running it on the 601 for a 
while & see what happens, but it's just too slow, especially with the cache 
pulled. (I don't have it to reinstall; a previous owner put the G4 in.)

Next stop, when I have the time, is to swap keyboard & ADB cables, just in 
case they're the problem. I may try a complete wiping of the PRAM by pulling it 
overnight (...no CUDA to reset on this baby...)

-- 
Over,

        Jutso

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