PTP: reseat all cards.  Especially the processor. It tends to come loose 
when the motherboard flexes upon vid card installation. Press the CUDA 
and try it again. (BTDT. PTP 250.)

Umax I can't help you with.

Jim

R.A. Cantrell wrote:
> I just swapped for a couple of Clones and I can't make them work. One is
> Power Computing PowerTower Pro 180, lights no  bong, dark screen, the  other
> is a UMAX SuperMac tower Bright screen, bong, cursor-stop. Zapped P-Ram but
> can't seem to get it to do anything beyond that. A. are these boxes worth
> fiddling with? B. any  ideas on  what to do next on  either  one. C. are
> these analogs to the  8500/8600 machines?



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