Hi,

Thanks for the replies; may I reply to a couple
different emails with just one message?

>> Drive setup supports most (if not all) IDE drives,
>> and a large variety of SCSI drives. However, most
>> of the larger SCSI drives on the market today 
>> post-date Drive Setup, pretty much, or were never
>> supported.

I'm confused... by the "post-date Drive Setup" phrase,
does that mean that Apple doesn't use Drive Setup
anymore, in their new Macs? Does Drive Setup go by
some other name now, or does Apple just use
third-party stuff exclusively now? ...Guess I'm due
for the day-and-a-half journey into the civilized
world to the nearest Mac store and poke around in the
System folder of OS X or whatever - if they even still
*have* System Folders, hell maybe that's gone now
too... (sniffle). Anyway, back to the topic...

> Hence, the need for a Drive Setup hack for > 4 GB
> SCSI drives, and for most UW-SCSI drives.

My present external SCSI drive (the IBM) is 9 GB. But
it's not UW-SCSI (at least I guess it isn't, not sure
what the difference is), and it's several years old.
 
> Right now I'm using 18 GB UW-SCSI drives, and 36 GB
> and larger ones are certainly available, although
> they're very costly, on a $/GB basis.

Actually I could get by quite nicely with just another
9 GB (that would be preferred actually), but they
apparently don't make them that small anymore. What's
the next size up, 18 GB or something; that would be
plenty. Anything much larger than that, I wouldn't
have any use for (I don't use HFS+ anyway, and have no
intention to start doing so, so *really* big drives
would just be a nuisance - at present, even my 9 GB
drive is divided up into 8 partitions, which is *just*
the way I like it for my uses).

I'd buy a second-hand one *but* I want a warranty and
(due to my lack of tech knowledge) it needs to already
be in the external enclosure, so that all I have to do
is set the SCSI ID and hook it up and format it. I
doubt that I would be able to successfully buy a bare
drive and install it into an external enclosure and
expect it to work - that business with jumpers and
stuff just thoroughly confuses me beyond hope - *unless*
it came with *very* explicit and 100% accurate
Mac-specific instructions that worked exactly as
written; I *am* good at following directions when such
exist - but most of the directions for drives seem to
be for PC's, which is useless - so I'd rather just
wait until I have enough to buy a good-quality new
drive, already in enclosure, and with at least a
several-year warranty.

At one time I considered a second *internal* drive
(speed is not an issue; the external is fast enough
for my uses). But, I'd have to hire someone to install
it, and lugging this heavy beast for a *very* long
journey to the nearest shop that knows anything about
Macs, is not my first choice. The internal ones are
noisy, anyway - the 8600 case just seems to grossly
*amplify* even the tiniest noise that go on in there,
and I certainly don't need yet another fan going in
there - it does have a second fan, apparently to
ventilate additional drives or something, but the
second fan doesn't appear to be hooked up right now
(probably 'cause there's only one drive in there), and
it makes plenty enough noise already. I like the
external drives because they're small and relatively
quiet (their case doesn't amplify noise the way the
8600 case does) and they can be easily tucked away in
a cabinet (well-ventilated) so I don't have to listen
to them whine and whir all the time (my high-frequency
hearing is, unfortunately, still quite good - I can
often even tell when someone's TV set is on, just by
going by on the walkway or sidewalk outside their
house - it's not much fun being able to hear things
that well - and combining computer fan noise, drives
noise, along with the unavoidable high-pitch whines of
my two monitors, is *plenty* enough - I don't need any
more racket in here - maybe that's a "girl thing"
though, being able to hear really high frequencies -
also I have had very little exposure to loud
(amplified) music, so nothing's gotten fried
(unfortunately). In any case, it's more of a curse
than a blessing).

Earplugs are an irritation, not suitable for all-day
use. Or in my case, 24-hour use since *I* have to
sleep in the next room over from the Mac and can hear
whatever it's doing quite well. As mentioned in some
previous email a while back, this Mac doesn't do
cold-starts very well, so I just leave it run all the
time and let it sleep when not in use. I would not
welcome the idea of a second *internal* fan going all
the time. I suppose I could put the whole damn Mac
in a cabinet, but by the time I provided adequate
ventilation for it, the noise would still probably
be too audible to suit me. Or figure out some clever
way to dampen the case so that it doesn't amplify
sounds; too complicated though.

Besides all that, I like the portability idea of
external drives.

-JM





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