At 1:10 AM -0500 on 8/31/03, J. Blanton wrote:

>You can do a lot with a 9500.  You've got more than enough RAMfor all but
>the most serious computing.  You could upgrade the SCSI hard drive fairly
>cheap.  Macresq.com has pretty good deals on 50 pin SCSI drives.  You can
>get 18 gigs for about $50.  The processor, like you mentioned, can be
>upgraded to 800 mhz g4 BUT you've still got that 50 mhz system bus ( like
>most pci powermacs) and that's where your performance will suffer.  The
>system bus speed is the main bottleneck on these oldermachines.   An ATI
>rage 128 card 16 mb video card (from a blue and white g3 or an early G4)
>would be good for your video if you didn't want to spend $100 dollars on ATI
>Radeon 7000 32mb.
>
>Howeve,  my advice (as a mac user for 17 years) to you would be NOT to spend
>the money upgrading the 9500 and save up (or get, if you've got the money) a
>"Sawtooth" G4 for about $600. Check out baucom.com for good deals.
>
>  Here are the advantages to a G4:
>
>1) faster system bus: 100 mhz vs. 50 mhz
>
>2) AGP 2x Video:  AGP video is WAY faster than PCI video which is what your
>pretty much stuck with on a old PCI powermac.  Newer AGP video cards like
>the nVidia Geforce 3 or 4 support way more video memory than an old PCI
>power mac
>
>3) ATA hard drive: ATA drives are cheaper than SCSI, you can get a lot more
>storage for you money.

I bought an 8600/300 in June. I have added memory and a big hard drive both
of which I think are essential to getting things done these days.

I have also added a radeon 7000 which lets me play some games that would
not run on the built-in video.

I'm happy with what I've done and I think it's reasonable, but the fact is
the more you upgrade, the sooner you run into the cost/benefit ceiling as
noted above. That's why I got the 8600 instead of upgrading the 5400 I have.

The CPU upgrades are trickier. Several of the games I run "require" at
least a G3/300 or faster. Only one of them is sluggish with the stock CPU
in my system. I expect it (and maybe even some of the others) would run
better with a faster CPU, but I don't know how much of a difference it
would really make.

I've noticed that many people on this list have upgraded with a G3/G4 card.
And a recent issue of MacWorld suggested buying a sub $100 pci Mac and
building it up with a G4/700, Radeon 7000, Tempo Trio and large hard drive.
They say for about $700, you would have the "equivalent" of a $1200
PowerMac G4. But I've seen CompUSA closing out older, but still brand new,
G4s (not eMacs) for $500 recently. That's the kind of thing that makes
spending $250 for a G4/700 upgrade hard to justify, but, then again, it may
be just what you need.

Jim








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