--- Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> On Feb 16, 2004, at 3:56 PM, Andy G wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, 16 Feb 2004 22:18:56 -0000, David P
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> I'm trying to "de-Microsoft" my Mac...
> >
> >
> > Ok - I'm going to stick my neck out here, I foretell much sucking
> of
> > breath and muttering in the dark corners of the [PCI] list but to
> Hell
> > with it ;)
> >
> > I'm a firm believer in using the best application for the job.
> > If this means using an M$ app then so be it.
> > As far as I'm concerned one of the best things that M$ has ever
> done is
> > the Office suite.
> > I'm not talking the extended bloatware that the new Office 11 has
> 
> > become
> > but the key apps - Excel, Powerpoint, Word & Outlook.
> 
> In general Office is a prime example of why Monopolies Are Bad.
> 
> It is a bloated, buggy, low quality product that gets along in the 
> market only because people are scared to change, and because of
> that it 
> has no real competition anymore. Were there real competition I
> suspect 
> it would be very, very good. Microsoft *used* to be able to do
> that.
> 
> Excel, alone, rocks (and remember, it was the spreadsheet that 
> accountants were buying Macs to get back when it was Mac only) and
> is, 
> imo, the only really 'top of it's class' application Microsoft has
> done 
> for the Mac (or the PC for that matter), but it's bloating out
> pretty 
> fast.
> 
> It's too bad Apple dumped Resolve; that was good spreadsheet app; I
> 
> have an old copy I still use it on my laptop.
> 
> Word is adequate (imo Word 3 was the high point of that app as a
> fast, 
> intuitive and usable word processor).
> 
> Again, there aren't real competitors out there.
> 
> People use Word, not because Word is all that great, but because 
> 'everybody else has it'. (If only Novell hadn't completely borked
> Word 
> Perfect, then sold it to the soulless heathens at Corel to die a 
> lingering death, we might still have some competition for Word.)
> Back 
> when Word and WordPerfect were going 'mano a mano', both companies
> were 
> forced to make their products better, not just bigger.
> 
> I cannot count the number of graduate students who have come to us,
> 
> sometimes in tears, because Word decided to barf all over their
> thesis 
> or dissertation because Word is not meant for long, complex
> documents.
> 
> Powerpoint sucks giant green donkey ones.
> 
> Keynote is so much better than Powerpoint it's not even funny. Just
> 
> about anything is so much better than Powerpoint it's not funny.
> 
> Crayons on a white board are better.
> 
> Powerpoint is an app that's been 'enhanced' by a lodge brother with
> a 
> case of the Handyman's secret weapon.
> 
> Powerpoint is the picture in the dictionary next to the word
> "kludge".
> 
> Powerpoint still exists only because MS has driven any other
> competitor 
> out of business. I suspect that the dotcom crash wasn't caused by 
> anything other than continual exposure to Powerpoint sapping the
> minds 
> of businessmen.
> 
> Milk sours when exposed to Powerpoint, and small children scream in
> 
> terror.
> 
> I wouldn't be at all surprised to find that Powerpoint has some
> hand in 
> global warming, the heartbreak of psoriasis, the break-up of the 
> Beatles and the death of Elvis. (yes, decades before it even
> existed it 
> was extending it's evil influence over the world!)
> 
> (you might have gotten the impression that I don't like that
> program 
> very much, and you would be correct...)
> 
> When Open Office finally gets ported to the Mac, it's should be a 
> serious contender to MS Office.
> 
> It won't. of course. On the PC the main reason people don't switch
> is 
> that 'It's not MS Office.' and they're terrified of changing; I
> expect 
> nothing more of the Mac market, even though 98% of then could
> switch 
> and almost never notice it.
> 
> But it's free, it's *very* powerful and it even has stuff that
> Office 
> doesn't, like a decent drawing application, and PDF output without 
> paying for Adobe Acrobat.
> 
> (and it doesn't eat it's own files like Office does, and even opens
> 
> files Office cannot, like the aforementioned self-eaten files) Why
> big 
> corporations aren't telling MS to stuff it and going for the free 
> alternative, I have no clue. Perhaps it's all that exposure to 
> Powerpoint presentations...
> 
> Outpuke, is, well Outpuke. The application that has facilitated a 
> thousand viruses onto the world gets no quarter from me.
> 
> (And don't EVEN get me started on Access...trust me, it's truly a 
> blessing that MS hasn't ported that obscenity to the Mac.)

There are half full glasses, half empty glasses and then in your
world the glass is broken.  Open Office is a great Office suite that
is free.  http://www.openoffice.org/ and for Mac OSX it's already
been ported http://porting.openoffice.org/mac/ooo-osx_downloads.html 
A the sweet world if open source..........

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