I have a pdf with the fireball settings.  I've put the
jumpers in different locations for 1 and 2.  I either
get a flashing ?, a gray screen with nothing, or the
original drive boots but not the second one.  

I haven't used the second drive in a while, so to make
sure it has an OS and wasn't damaged somehow, I
removed the jumper and swapped it with the original
drive on the SCSI cable - surprise!! the drive booted
just fine.

So, I guess that means it's probably the SCSI cable,
huh? In theory, I just need to replace the cable?  Or
could it be something else?

Thanks for your input.
Nicole


--- Fluxstringer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi Nicole,
> 
> I have to keep remembering here that you are talking
> about SCSI 
> drives.   The master  / slave thing keeps making me
> think IDE.
> 
> 
> I'll mix  my thoughts with your message, so here
> goes.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> >Ok, the Quantum Fireball SCSI and IDE drives are
> named
> >very similarly.  I was confused at first by the
> names
> >- the SCSI and IDE drives of that generation are
> all
> >called Fireballs.  But the 2 ltrs following
> Fireball
> >distinguish SCSI from IDE. The drives I have are
> SCSI
> >- they're both Fireball TM.  They're both formatted
> >and have an OS and apps installed - the one that
> was
> >already in the case has 9.1, the one to be added
> has
> >8.5.  I can use the drives individually with their
> >factory termination settings.  However, I can't get
> >the "new" drive to mount.
> 
> 
> Most probably they have the same ID setting (
> probably zero ) . Just 
> familiarize yourself with the jumper diagram and
> change one or the 
> other
> drive's jumper.  Not hard. But confuing sometimes.
> 
> >
> >I've tried a force mount with NUM, but that's not
> >working either.  I haven't tried Apple's HD Setup -
> >I'll do that as soon as I post this.
> 
> 
> With the same ID it still won't work.
> 
> >
> >My main machine is a B/W G3 - I wanted to use the
> 7500
> >as a print server for my old LaserWriter 300 and
> since
> >I have a pair of old speakers that won't work with
> >anything older than a beige G3, I thought I could
> use
> >them with 7500 and have an mp3 jukebox.
> >
> >But, at the moment, I'm stymied by getting this
> second
> >drive to work.
> >
> >Questions I have after following the exchange about
> my
> >original post:
> >
> >1. Is it possible there's a problem with the SCSI
> >cable?  I've tried moving the drives around, and
> both
> >connectors <seem> to work okay.
> 
> 
> Try the ID change first.  The cable  could be
> damaged but probably isn't.
> 
> 
> >
> >2.  Silly question probably, but the jumpers I have
> >are taller than the original factory one.  But, the
> >package  is labeled SCSI jumpers.  Is height going
> to
> >make a difference?
> 
> 
> Just bend them over . they are probably flexible.
> 
> >
> >3.  I saw a couple of posts, but I'm still not
> clear -
> >does it matter in the 7500 where the master is on
> the
> >SCSI cable?
> 
> 
> Forget Master and slave when talking SCSI. They are
> all equals on a 
> team. Each able to be booted from if set up
> properly. and each 
> capable of
> configuration in any way you desire.  I thought that
> was settled very 
> early in this thread.
> 
> >
> >4. Should I just throw it all in and get a PCI card
> >and install an IDE as a second drive?
> 
> 
> Ugh !  Yuck !   SCSI is much COOLER !  Run IDE if
> you want It's fine 
> and can be fast, but SCSI for an old Mac is more
> cost effective
> Unlees you want huge drives cheaper.   I just like
> to be able to run 
> 6 SCSI devices on a chain. And they are faster in
> many cases.
> And no master slave problems
> 
> Oh., if you set a drive to an ID over 4 reset the CD
> ROM to be one 
> number higher in order to use it's terminator. Or un
> terminate the CD 
> and use and
> terminate the last device..  Check the manufacturers
> manual. on how to do it.
> 
> 
> It should all work much easier than you thought it
> would.
> 
> >
> >
> Regards,
> -- 
> Adrian



        
                
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