On  Thu, 03 Jun 2004 22:32:19 +1200 Andrew Grebneff wrote:

9600/200 w/Sonnet 400G3

I have had increasing problems with this machine, and eventually,
when I tried moving the 3 HDs around and fitting an internal Zip, it
decided to boot incompletely.

At best the desktop picture would come up, and an empty box (I assume
the incorrect clock seting box) with OK button, the PopChar symbol
inb the empty menubar which also shows the date/clock with part of
the first character cut off... and freezes (cursor movable).

Other times I'd get a blank screen with movable cursor, or a Mac
Classic symbol and no further activity. Starting with C key held down
& OS CD in slot did NOT cause boot from CD, nor did
command-option-shift-delete (which on ONE occasion caused boot with
extensions off, but freeze with same symptoms as noted above).
Disconnecting the smaller HDs didn't help, nor did replacing the
Ricoh bootable CDR with the original Apple CD. Replacing the 6x512mb
Velocity Upgrades and reinstalling the original RAM didn't help, nor
replacing the G3 processor with a 200mHz 604e. No combination helped.

I have NEVER reset the IDs of any of the drives I moved (or of those
I didn't move).

Eventually I tried replacing everything exactly as it was before this
rearrangement, and as expected, no difference... so it sits before me
now with incomplete menubar and empty clock box... this old 6116 G3
is a very nice machine, but its tiny HD, low RAM and limited monitor
resolution is a pain.

As it won't boot, I can't reset the startup disc to one of the other
drives to see if it's the fairly new10000rpm 34gb drive from OWC
>that's at fault.

Or take everything out and add them one at a time to see if it'll
solve the problem.  also, try zapping your PRAM.

Done all those. RAM, drives, PRAM. Can't run DiscWarrior, of course, or rebuild desktop (did the latter immediately before the crash anyway).


The machine USED to run "OK" (well, it was full of gremlins, but it did go most of the time) with standard 4gb HD, 9.1gb 60-pin HD, 34gb 10000rpm 60-pin HD, Ricoh bootable CDR... after it started to give trouble it REFUSED to work at all with the stock 4gb connected... then it stopped booting altogether.

I've tried every combination possible, with no help. I asked my local MacGuru, who threw up his hands; when i asked if he thought the mobo was dying, he thought it probably was. "Getting old" was his answer.

To be honest, I think this is what it is, so it's the end of the road for this machine.

Now I have to wait for a 60-pin SCSI card to arrive (overdue) from a Canadian SWAP listee to fit the 9600's HDs in the b&w... to see if they work there.
--
Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin
New Zealand
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Seashell, Macintosh, VW/Toyota van nut


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