Chris Wood chimed in with...
I have had several 8600/300's and 9600/300's and a
9650/350's. I was 
aways a bit disapointed in these machines speed wise.
Even with the high 
for the day clock speed and the 1 meg inline cache. I
always thought my 
PowerCenter Pro 240 with 1 meg level 2 cache felt
faster than any of 
the "Kansas" machines. I never did any real
benchmarking though. The Apple 
machines were way more reliable though. I had the
level 2 cache dimm go 
on PowerCenter's, PowerTower Pro's and PowerTower 180
and 200e's. Plus I 
hated the riser card set up on the PowerCenter Pro's.
------------------------------

...which prompts me to drift even further OT:

I really liked the 8600/300 when I first picked one up
used.  That's why I recently grabbed another when OWC
made me an offer I just couldn't refuse 8^)

My first 'puter of any kind was a new PowerCenter
150MT in '97, which I kept and upgraded for several
years before I found it a good home with a couple of
senior citizens who were relatively new to Macs.  Its
first significant processor upgrade was a 604e/240
from a PCPro and a 1 MB cache.  My memory is that the
8600's performance seemed very comparable to the
240's; the PCP's 60 MHz bus seemed to equalize
matters.

I never had *any* probs with any of PCC's Catalyst
systems, and I've had a few of them.  The video/PCI
riser *WAS* a bit of an oddball design solution, but
for me it had its upside; many people weren't aware
that simply reseating the riser card was often an
effective solution to otherwise inexplicable problems
- got me a couple of perfectly good PCC machines that
other folks had given up on ;^)

There's still a very warm spot in my heart for those
gone-but-not-forgotten rebels at PCC.  Bring back
Sluggo, and "Let's kick Intel's ass!"

=====
Gene, a.k.a. G-Man
Friends don't let friends do Windows


                
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