Have you tried resetting PRAM?  Techtool is probably the best way to do
this.

-- Joshua



On 12/14/04 8:38 AM, "Brian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi all;
> 
> I'm setting up a new-to-me 8500 for a family member.  It came with
> 8.5.1, 156 RAM, original 1 gig drive.
> Functional status unknown. 156 RAM.
> 
> I pulled the HD, saw an IDE sticker, bought it an IDE drive, then
> realized what it had in it was a Fireball SCSI with a Fireball IDE
> sticker.  .sigh.  I should have checked LEM 8500 pages first.
> 
> Anyway either with the original installed 8.5.1 HD and system, or
> with a the internal drive formatted and reinstalled with 8.5:  I
> can't boot with extensions enabled.
> 
> With extensions enabled, even on a formatted drive and clean minimal
> system, with a normal boot the finder locks up upon loading.  I can
> make it display a "finder cannot load due to lack of memory" if I
> have 8.5 minimal system loaded.  If I disable some unneeded
> extensions, I just get a finder freeze, no white crash box, no error
> message.  This is a clean install onto a formatted disk.
> 
> When I boot with extensions disabled, I get a normal finder, system
> reports 156 megs RAM available.  The memory cdev is set to have 1 meg
> of disk used for virtual memory.
> 
> Bad RAM?  Some known extension issue with the 8500?  The RAM is a
> brand I don't know, so it could be flaky.  It's a pain to get at this
> mainboard and I've not had time to start swapping modules yet.
> 
> Bad processor?  I have a G3 card for it, that could be easier to put
> in than messing with the RAM.
> 
> I've started disabling extensions from the "minimal" set, but haven't
> completely finished testing.
> 
> Thoughts welcome.  My goal is to get this shipped to arrive at my
> father's place before the holiday, so I can move his files across-
> without trying to do that over the phone....  I wanted to update the
> HD but I'm not sure I can find either a Mac capable IDE controller,
> or a new SCSI drive, in time.
> 
> Recommendations on easily found IDE cards for 8.5 or 9.1 welcome.  IS
> there something likely to be on the shelf at Circuit City or other
> easy place?  I guess I'm only 1.5 days shipping away from OWC, I
> could just order online.  Are there boot issues with IDE controller
> cards and 8500's?  I'd want to boot from the IDE drive.
> 
> And of course I wanted to put 9.1 on, and I cannot find my 9.1 installer CD...
> 
> Thanks for help;
> 
> Brian
> 
> 



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