Ben,

This would work going into the boot-up of windows 98 ONLY so far as I have
found myself.

You can do the confirmation of each step in config.sys, autoexec.bat, and
the initial load of windows' files itself. BUT once you get to a particular
spot in the windows load sequence, you no longer get to find out what or
how anything else is loading. So if the problem is after that last
confirmation point in the load sequence, you have NO idea what is going on
from that point on with windows loading. And believe me, I have been going
through the same problems myself with windows loading and running properly.

The problem the original poster is having might be involved with a problem
with the video driver or similar loading properly, such as the wrong driver
for the video card or for the OS version of windows, or a corrupted
drivers, or similar, so when it gets to load the video to go into GUI mode,
it hangs, and the system ends up showing a black screen and never goes
further than that point. It could be a conflict of drivers affecting the
video, so the end effect is the same - a totally black screen and nothing
else showing up. And it gets to be REAL fun when it does not repeat itself
on a any regular basis, so you get to restart and restart and restart any
number of times, and then things finally get to a point where things load
properly, and windows completes its normal load sequence. BUT the next time
you go to restart windows - BLAM!!! you start this whole process ALL over
again.

Unfortunately, the REAL fun is if you get a problem with IRQs - multiple
devices on the system all trying to use the same IRQ. This is no problem IF
they act nice and behaved, and work as they should. BUT, when they dont,
then you get all kinds of fun and games - *** NOT ***!!!!!

This seems to be the problem I am having myself on my own system. After the
last several weeks, and unteem re-installs of windows98SE, and having first
one problem, and then another problem, and then another problem, and then
another problem, on into infinity, showing up during the load sequence
and/or during the running of windows, this was getting me no where fast
with trying to gett a stable system.

The problems all seemed to revolve, every time with every install,
happening AFTER I would do a install of my new Creative Labs Audigy sound
card software. What in the world was going on, since CL seems to be one of
the companies that puts out very reliable hardware and software these
days????

After any number of calls to CL tech support, I finally ended up with a
level 2 support tech last sunday - one thing he had me do that was not done
previously was check my system IRQ usage. And that seems to be something I
had forgotten to previously check myself.

Previously to this point in time, where after I had my initial windows 98SE
install originally working and going great, when I would want to install
some new piece of hardware and its software, you uninstalled the software
for a piece of hardware, put the new hardware in, and install its software
- with that kind of situation, NO PROBLEM!!!

However, this time it was a totally new install of Win98SE with all the
boards already installed in the system, and that is the problem - windows
sees all the daughter boards installed at the very start. And
unfortunately, windows ended up assigning 6 devices all to the exact same
system IRQ. And this is a REALLY BIG problem!!!! An ethernic card, sound
card, DVD decoder card, and motherboard circuitry, ALL trying to use the
same IRQ makes for potential nightmares NO engineer wants to try and solve.

So the sugguestion the CL tech gave me was to do another Win98SE reinstall,
BUT take all but the video card out before the install. Once windows is up
and running, THEN install each card separately with its software, to
hopefully get back to a stable system. Hopefully, windows will finally end
up assigning each device to the correct IRQ and related system settings,
and this nightmare I have been going through will finally end.

Hopefully, this might help others dealing with the same kind of system
issues,

Ralph



Have you tried doing a step by step confirmation at boot?  Hit F8 and
select
step by step.  See if you can figure out what is hanging it up.  Once you
find it, then we can figure out how to fix it.

Ben Moore


----- Original Message -----
From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2002 8:05 AM
Subject: PCWorks: Win98 loading problems


> P180 MHz, Award bios, Win 98 SE, 192 MB RAM
> There are many stories of Windows shutdown problems, but no-one seems to
> have the problem that I have -- i.e. Windows refuses to load after
boot-up.
>
> Sometimes I have to reboot as many as half a dozen times before Windows
will
> load. It doesn't matter which option I choose - normal, safe mode,
command
> prompt only - after reading autoexec.bat and config.sys, the system just
> hangs - no activity from the hard disk, just nothing. This has been going
on
> for a long time now, and my solution is to keep the machine turned on
> permanently to save myself the hassle of spending sometimes more than
half
> an hour in futile attempts to get the machine working. That's OK most of
the
> time, but of course sometimes I need to restart Windows after
installation
> of new software, or indeed just to clear the memory, and then my troubles
> start all over again.
>
> While I don't really expect to find a solution, I'd like to know what
> causes this hang-up. Is it connected with the hard disk, motherboard, or
> Windows itself - i.e. is it a hardware or software problem? Has anyone
else
> experienced this most annoying phenomenon? If so, did you find a
solution?
> Would reinstalling the OS help? (I doubt this, because the problem has
been
> there ever since I did the first install and after subsequent
reinstallation
> of Win 98)
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